Main Stand redevelopment thread

[Spiderman]

The obvious way to increase capacity would be to put another tier on the Arthur Waite Stand.

There are a dozen houses or so behind the stand which could be purchased if light restriction was an issue.
You could probably put 5k on a top tier with some more executive boxes and that would give us our 40k. The boxes in the Whitehorse could then be removed and add some more seats to that end.

It's all about money.

I agree But we would have to build similar housing for the residents, unless we go down the Liverpool/Spurs route ( allegedly). Building another tier on Whitehorse would surely be the quickest and cheapest, however you would lose the hospitality boxes if they were not relocated first, so a big nono

 

[ASCPFC]

I agree But we would have to build similar housing for the residents, unless we go down the Liverpool/Spurs route ( allegedly). Building another tier on Whitehorse would surely be the quickest and cheapest, however you would lose the hospitality boxes if they were not relocated first, so a big nono

I suspect the houses behind the Whitehorse would be an issue but have no idea on how that would work. I'd say they'd lose light?
It was always a pain how we did that end. It could have been another Homesdale and we would have something like 33,000 capacity. Obviously then, doing the main stand would give us 40 plus thousand - which historically is about right for us. I don't think we need more than 40 odd thousand. I think 50 thousand would be pushing it for us and we'd lose some atmosphere.
I can only really think of two massive games at Selhurst where we did push 50k. I was at one but the other is just before my time. You were probably there.

 

[Painter]

I suspect the houses behind the Whitehorse would be an issue but have no idea on how that would work. I'd say they'd lose light?
It was always a pain how we did that end. It could have been another Homesdale and we would have something like 33,000 capacity. Obviously then, doing the main stand would give us 40 plus thousand - which historically is about right for us. I don't think we need more than 40 odd thousand. I think 50 thousand would be pushing it for us and we'd lose some atmosphere.
I can only really think of two massive games at Selhurst where we did push 50k. I was at one but the other is just before my time. You were probably there.

I fail to see, how the houses at whitehorse end would lose any light. There happens to be a big Sainsbury's supermarket between any stand and the houses, they look straight out their windows and that all they see at the back.
It wasn't an issue with the Holmesdale stand, which towers above the houses opposite.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

I agree But we would have to build similar housing for the residents, unless we go down the Liverpool/Spurs route ( allegedly). Building another tier on Whitehorse would surely be the quickest and cheapest, however you would lose the hospitality boxes if they were not relocated first, so a big nono

Not if they are privately owned, surely. You just offer the owners an inflated price for their house and help with the move. Then you could even knock them down.
When the Whitehorse was reduced, it was by roughly half. It only holds just over 2k now so I doubt there would be enough room to add much more than double that unless there is a radical design.

The Arthur has more scope for increase, and its roof sits almost at ground level. Lots of potential.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Not easy to deal with houses with numerous regulations to follow and organisations and people to deal with. If any of the houses are social housing, alternative housing must be found and agreed upon before you can purchase the house.

Probably knocking down and rebuilding white horse would be easier depending on how much Sainsbury’s want

Are they likely to be?

 

[Spiderman]

I fail to see, how the houses at whitehorse end would lose any light. There happens to be a big Sainsbury's supermarket between any stand and the houses, they look straight out their windows and that all they see at the back.
It wasn't an issue with the Holmesdale stand, which towers above the houses opposite.

I agree, also would it need to be much higher than it is now?

 

[Spiderman]

Not if they are privately owned, surely. You just offer the owners an inflated price for their house and help with the move. Then you could even knock them down.
When the Whitehorse was reduced, it was by roughly half. It only holds just over 2k now so I doubt there would be enough room to add much more than double that unless there is a radical design.

The Arthur has more scope for increase, and its roof sits almost at ground level. Lots of potential.

Good point

 

[Casual]

Would be ideal to buy all the houses directly surrounding the ground and rent them out, then we could do what we wanted, when we wanted to do it.

Not if they are privately owned,

surely. You just offer the owners an inflated price for their house and help with the move. Then you could even knock them down.
When the Whitehorse was reduced, it was by roughly half. It only holds just over 2k now so I doubt there would be enough room to add much more than double that unless there is a radical design.

The Arthur has more scope for increase, and its roof sits almost at ground level. Lots of potential.

 

[MrRobbo]

Would be ideal to buy all the houses directly surrounding the ground and rent them out, then we could do what we wanted, when we wanted to do it.

Surely the smart thing would have been to have been slowly buying them on the sly. Mostly through natural attrition so not to raise any attention.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Surely the smart thing would have been to have been slowly buying them on the sly. Mostly through natural attrition so not to raise any attention.

How do you know they haven't?

 

[dreamwaverider]

Keep updates for Selhurst Park redevelopment here.

Steve Parish gave TalkSport the latest on the new Main Stand: "That's going well. We're spending a lot of money this year – you probably won't see it much – we have to move the away dressing rooms. There's a video that we released about how the stand is going to look, so we have to move a lot of things around. We spent about £10m this year. By May next year we should be in a position with a really honed-down construction contract with all the costs and then things should accelerate from there."

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=480143304639983

This was posted in August 2024. Sounds familiar to recent comments from the Chairman?

 

[dreamwaverider]

Im very surprised that considering the main stand will probably be closed for a considerable time (a bit like Fulham) the club have not done much more PR on this topic especially for Main Stand season ticket holders, and in fact all match goers. Has no-one on here who sits in the main stand been informed what is going on. It seems odd that with steel coming in to the building no one has commented at all. On the old video, this will wrap around to join the Homesdale, so presumably it will affect part of that stand too. Surely someone has seen or heard something?

 

[MrRobbo]

How do you know they haven't?

Lets hope they have been!

 

[dreamwaverider]

I agree its not going away soon but gradually it is lessening. It has already begun. Dont take my word for it. Look up the figures yourself. The only reason the PLs last deal was favourable was because SKY got more games for more or less the same money.

A lot of looking into the future here set.1905. My tenpenny worth was just my gaze into a crystal ball. The way AI is going we may all be watching virtual players by 2040!! With what is going on around the world, my gut feeling tells me there will possibly be less travelling to events and large gatherings than there are now. But my views may well be different next week.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Sainsbury's want well over market value for anything. They are playing hardball, because they're a business, not a charity. That particular Sainsbury's is a shithole. It might have been earmarked for closure, but for the fact they have Palace over a barrel with regards to getting way over market value for anything.
Short of the Whitehorse stand collapsing into the store, or a devastating mysterious fire, Palace are going to have to pay, or be inventive.

 

[dreamwaverider]

Recent posts are exposing just how difficult it is to develop any structure of this kind of magnitude and complexity. Palace really should be thinking about this and the knock on effect all these ideas will have on fan disruption over a long period. I still believe we should be carefully considering whether re modelling our existing ground is the best solution. If we decide to stay at Selhurst and develop it out stand by stand it will definitely be very disruptive for all fans for a very long time. I am concerned this has not ever been properly considered. Let alone the rising costs.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Sainsbury's want well over market value for anything. They are playing hardball, because they're a business, not a charity. That particular Sainsbury's is a shithole. It might have been earmarked for closure, but for the fact they have Palace over a barrel with regards to getting way over market value for anything.
Short of the Whitehorse stand collapsing into the store, or a devastating mysterious fire, Palace are going to have to pay, or be inventive.

We could buy back the Sainsbury's site, but it would make development of that end very expensive.
It would only be likely if Sainsbury's approached the club because they wanted to close the store.

I always thought that a store built into a new stand would be a solution, but it would have to benefit both parties.

 

[ex hibitionist]

A lot of looking into the future here set.1905. My tenpenny worth was just my gaze into a crystal ball. The way AI is going we may all be watching virtual players by 2040!! With what is going on around the world, my gut feeling tells me there will possibly be less travelling to events and large gatherings than there are now. But my views may well be different next week.

Sainsbury's car pack could be levitated about 500 feet for flying cars, that would make space for redevelopment, and we'll no doubt be watching holograms of android players in virtual 3D. Burgers will be replaced by protein pills, and the Crystals by dancing sexbots. You heard it here first.

 

[crystal-purley]

Sainsbury's car pack could be levitated about 500 feet for flying cars, that would make space for redevelopment, and we'll no doubt be watching holograms of android players in virtual 3D. Burgers will be replaced by protein pills, and the Crystals by dancing sexbots. You heard it here first.

 

[crystal-purley]

Sainsbury's car pack could be levitated about 500 feet for flying cars, that would make space for redevelopment, and we'll no doubt be watching holograms of android players in virtual 3D. Burgers will be replaced by protein pills, and the Crystals by dancing sexbots. You heard it here first.

As others have said earlier buy (if not haven't done already) knock them down and build over Sainsburys if given permission and double the size of the Whitehorse. Probably a financially good idea as long as CPFC stay in the Premier league