Liverpool vs. Crystal Palace League Cup match thread

PatrickA said:
I think the key with Pino is to try and avoid nearly every pass to him resulting in a 50/50 challenge which ends up with him losing the ball or conceding a foul.
Try and find him in space with the correct weight of pass so he can demonstrate his range of clever control and passes.
He keeps the team shape when defending and works hard, but we need to see more of the attacking skills which he demonstrated on occasions last night.
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My assessment of Pino is that he has immensely quick feet with the technical ability to dribble, pass the ball and finish (as demonstrated at Anfield) effectively. He has a good reading of the game/foobtall intelligence (can pick a pass) and a dogged determination about him.

His weaknesses thus far have been his slightly diminutive stature, his overexuberance leading to fouls/cards, him generally looking somewhat unaccustomed to the English game and still not fully confident of his role.

All of his attributes are highly desirable and none of his weaknesses are fatal, they're almost expected.

I think we have a great player there, it's just a few psychological hurdles he has to overcome. Let's hope he does.
 
MrRobbo said:
Yep not a like for like, but he's never going to be. Lad has played 20 odd pro games, and Marc is, well Marc.

We need to keep giving him minutes where possible, and Chadi when he returns. But realistically we'll likey need to buy a Guehi replacement. If the club see real potential in Chadi and Jaydee, that replacement could be a bit older/experienced.

Its is however a long season and we'il have injuries where these guys will need to step up for a handful of games
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Teamtalk clickbait site says we're looking at Nathan Ake(30) from City. this aligns with your older/experienced player idea.
 
MrRobbo said:
Yep not a like for like, but he's never going to be. Lad has played 20 odd pro games, and Marc is, well Marc.

We need to keep giving him minutes where possible, and Chadi when he returns. But realistically we'll likey need to buy a Guehi replacement. If the club see real potential in Chadi and Jaydee, that replacement could be a bit older/experienced.

Its is however a long season and we'il have injuries where these guys will need to step up for a handful of games
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Hence the clickbait interest in the 30yo Ake from City.
 
Eagleman13 said:
Teamtalk clickbait site says we're looking at Nathan Ake(30) from City. this aligns with your older/experienced player idea.
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Would make a lot of sense IMO. He'd play lots of games for us, we'd need someone who can immediately step in the the void.

He'll be 31 by the summer, last year of contract. Wouldn't cost a lot.

Unless of course we go back in for a Diomande type
 
Nicholas91 said:
My assessment of Pino is that he has immensely quick feet with the technical ability to dribble, pass the ball and finish (as demonstrated at Anfield) effectively. He has a good reading of the game/foobtall intelligence (can pick a pass) and a dogged determination about him.

His weaknesses thus far have been his slightly diminutive stature, his overexuberance leading to fouls/cards, him generally looking somewhat unaccustomed to the English game and still not fully confident of his role.

All of his attributes are highly desirable and none of his weaknesses are fatal, they're almost expected.

I think we have a great player there, it's just a few psychological hurdles he has to overcome. Let's hope he does.
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I am in agreement with the general thrust of your assessment.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Is there any benefit in pretending it wasn't a poor Liverpool team?

It was a great performance from us, and not often you get to go and win so convincingly at Anfield, but when you compare the two named XIs, we were clear favourites.
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Slot may have taken a gamble in that Glasner may have prepared to set the team up against a ‘standard’ Liverpool eleven. Consequently by putting a team of ‘unknowns’ on the pitch meant that Liverpool could have the element of surprise to undo us. It didn’t work but that may have been Slot’s reasoning.
 
Spindle said:
I don't remember any hard times with OG tbh. Who the feck wanted him sacked? Some knee jerk morons?
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There was literally a whole thread started about whether we should stick with OG or sack him.

DANGERCLOSE

Topic 'Is Glasner the problem?'

Plays the same front 3 and its not working, Kamada is just not good enough, he must see this surely?

Brings on Schlupp for Nketiah didn't make sense, some of his ingame tactics are bizarre

Hope he changes things soon, I'll give it till Christmas then it's time for a change maybe get someone like moyes in.
 
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Phil’s Barber said:
There was literally a whole thread started about whether we should stick with OG or sack him.

DANGERCLOSE

Topic 'Is Glasner the problem?'

Plays the same front 3 and its not working, Kamada is just not good enough, he must see this surely?

Brings on Schlupp for Nketiah didn't make sense, some of his ingame tactics are bizarre

Hope he changes things soon, I'll give it till Christmas then it's time for a change maybe get someone like moyes in.
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I will humbly suggest that many comments have not aged well !
 
Phil’s Barber said:
There was literally a whole thread started about whether we should stick with OG or sack him.

DANGERCLOSE

Topic 'Is Glasner the problem?'

Plays the same front 3 and its not working, Kamada is just not good enough, he must see this surely?

Brings on Schlupp for Nketiah didn't make sense, some of his ingame tactics are bizarre

Hope he changes things soon, I'll give it till Christmas then it's time for a change maybe get someone like moyes in.
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"Somebody posted an article not long ago which interestingly focussed upon Glasner's poor starts to seasons, before things suddenly changed. Add to that, the loss of two key players for us this summer, a number of new incomings and summer tournaments. That said, excuses or reasons aside, the start results-wise has been atrocious.

I have the feeling things will turn around in due course however he may well get the tin-tac if this continues into double figures of games played. I hope it's the former. It's all well and good having a great and unique approach to football as a manager but if it translates into nothing, and you don't have any answers/solutions, the writing will always be on the wall."

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That was my contribution on the early pages.

Fear not young Nicholas91, it did indeed translate into something... a few things, 2 Trophies and European football! 🤣
 
Eaglehamster said:
Slot much cleverer than most think. He knew his first choice team couldn't beat us. So he fielded a few youngsters with a ready excuse for the inevitable defeat. A simple case of damage limitation.
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Might work for last night. If he keeps losing he will instantly run out of excuses. Not that I give a stuff about Liverpool
 
Willo said:
Liverpool's starting line-up included 7 Internationals.
Endo has over 70 caps for Japan, Chiesa over 50 caps for Italy, Robertson has nearly 90 caps for Scotland,McAllister is a World Cup winner, Gomez has played over 150 times for Liverpool and as played for England, Kerkez and Ramsay have both played for Hungary and Scotland respectively.

Our starting line-up was missing Henderson, Richards, Wharton, Mateta, Mitchell.
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I agree at first glance the Liverpool staring line up looked weak. Look closer at the starting 11 and they had some quality players there. Mixed with what they themselves described as the cream of their upcoming youth/academy players.
Considering we made a number of our own changes to our team if I were a Liverpool fan I would be concerned with the ease of our victory.
We took our foot off the gas for a while in the second half. Imagine the score if we'd have been determined to punish them.
 
Stirlingsays said:
I didn't see the match, anyone have an impression on how well the new centre back did?
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Canvot did ok. In the first half he kept losing Chiesa which resulted in him having two shots that Richards would not have allowed. However, he grew into the game and finished very strong. He is young and is going to make one or two mistakes but he is learning and he is built like a tank!
 
samprior said:
How many did Mateta score for us in his first two seasons?

My suggestion isn't because I think he'll be brilliant there but we literally have no other option than burning out Mateta. I think Uche at least has the physical attributes to make a nuisance of himself up top. Usually in the last 20 mins of games that can be useful.
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Did Sorloth score for us, ever?

Sarr can play the central role.
 
est1905 said:
Canvot did ok. In the first half he kept losing Chiesa which resulted in him having two shots that Richards would not have allowed. However, he grew into the game and finished very strong. He is young and is going to make one or two mistakes but he is learning and he is built like a tank!
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He is better than Liverpools replacement CB Nallo, who has made 2 appearances lasting a total of 12 minutes, due to being sent off on both appearances.
 
Painter said:
He is better than Liverpools replacement CB Nallo, who has made 2 appearances lasting a total of 12 minutes, due to being sent off on both appearances.
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Some while ago I had a conversation apropos Nallo who was in the W.Ham youth system.
I was informed he was not afraid of a challenge and had some attributes that could be described as 'Old school'.
 
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