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Israel v Hamas

CPFCSaturn said:
Says basic logic.

I have no idea why people keep referencing a 'solution' - I'm suggesting Israel should defend its borders and stop committing war crimes.

Genocide and mass displacement of people is certainly not the solution.
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OK that's Israel. What do you suggest Hamas do?
 
Penge Eagle said:
OK that's Israel. What do you suggest Hamas do?
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Again to re-iterate the point that Israel is a democratic state, member of the UN, signatory of the Geneva Convention and wider IHL.

Hamas are a terrorist group.

So my expectations as to how the two conduct themselves is very, very different.

Hamas should obviously stop committing atrocities.

Israel are perfectly capable of defending themselves from Hamas without the need to kills tens of thousands of civilians.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Again to re-iterate the point that Israel is a democratic state, member of the UN, signatory of the Geneva Convention and wider IHL.

Hamas are a terrorist group.

So my expectations as to how the two conduct themselves is very, very different.

Hamas should obviously stop committing atrocities.

Israel are perfectly capable of defending themselves from Hamas without the need to kills tens of thousands of civilians.
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Ah, so the onus is all on Israel and no accountability for Hamas. "Stop committing atrocities" is the best you can do? What a cop out.
 
Penge Eagle said:
Ah, so the onus is all on Israel and no accountability for Hamas. "Stop committing atrocities" is the best you can do? What a cop out.
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For a third time, yes there is more onus on the state military to de-escalate and not commit war crimes.

Yes, I expect Israel to conduct themselves better than a terrorist organisation.

It's really not a complicated piece of logic to grasp.
 
Forest Hillbilly said:
You can quibble over the civilian casualty and death numbers, a few thousand here, a hundred there, but we.ve all seen photographs of districts that have been levelled overnight by missile attacks and carpet bombing.
That kind of indiscriminate military action on civilian and UN 'safe' areas and hospitals is going to cause significant numbers of civilian deaths.
Add to that the withholding of food aid, medical supplies and the cutting off of water and electricity supplies , and you have genocide.

Meanwhile, significant numbers of Israeli's are thinking the same thing, and this seems to be under-reported.

"Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has fired the head of the nation's security service over its failure to anticipate the 7 October 2023 attack by Hamas.
The Israeli cabinet met on Thursday evening to formally approve the early dismissal of Ronen Bar, who was appointed in October 2021 for a five-year term as the Shin Bet's chief.
Netanyahu announced his intention to sack Mr Bar in a video statement on Sunday, citing an "ongoing distrust" between the two men which he said had "grown over time".

The move sparked outrage and further inflamed anti-government demonstrations in Jerusalem, which saw thousands of Israelis join forces with protestors opposing Israel's renewed assault on Gaza." (BBC website 21.3.25)
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Maybe if Hamas didn’t stash themselves and their equipment in hospitals they wouldn’t get targeted. Just saying !
 
cryrst said:
Maybe if Hamas didn’t stash themselves and their equipment in hospitals they wouldn’t get targeted. Just saying !
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But they do.

Does that give Israel the right to ignore it or to take a more careful, nuanced approach?

I am no military strategist but there must be a way of isolating the hospitals and slowly squeezing out the terrorists without losing so many civilian lives.
 
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