Israel v Hamas

CPFCSaturn said:
Yeah, a real swerve directly answering your point ffs.

So what would a 'balanced' report say?

'Today Israel killed 100 civilians and another 4 children starved to death. Hamas are also terrorists.'

Again, outside of your Zionist bubble, no one is silly enough to pretend Hamas are remotely relevant to Israel's recent conduct.
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How about some actual details on what Hamas are still up to. Obviously beyond your extremist views to think that Hamas might be operating still, and CAUSING massive issues for the people. Any reports on that? No, it's just the Jew, to the point that Israel are evil for bombing Iran, a nation that publicly denounces our nation. It's f***ing outragous.

Schrodingers Hamas, both dominating Gazans but also finished off and not a force, depending on whichever pro flag waving virtue signalling bullshit you like to promote.


I don't see any emaciated bodies there, not one. Could it be that the kids you saw are starved deliberately by fanatic Hamas supporting mothers to propaganda purposes? Do you think this is beyond Hamas? I recall the Etheopian famine and it was wall to wall pot bellied famine stricken kids as far as the eye could see. This isn't remotely similar.
 
Spindle said:
How about some actual details on what Hamas are still up to. Obviously beyond your extremist views to think that Hamas might be operating still, and CAUSING massive issues for the people. Any reports on that? No, it's just the Jew, to the point that Israel are evil for bombing Iran, a nation that publicly denounces our nation. It's f***ing outragous.

Schrodingers Hamas, both dominating Gazans but also finished off and not a force, depending on whichever pro flag waving virtue signalling bullshit you like to promote.


I don't see any emaciated bodies there, not one. Could it be that the kids you saw are starved deliberately by fanatic Hamas supporting mothers to propaganda purposes? Do you think this is beyond Hamas? I recall the Etheopian famine and it was wall to wall pot bellied famine stricken kids as far as the eye could see. This isn't remotely similar.
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What are Hamas up to? Is there any evidence, rumours or anything to suggest there’s something worth reporting on? Or you just want them to endlessly express ‘Hamas are evil’ for all time?
The idea that the focus shouldn’t be on the nation killing dozens of people every day is so absurd it’s almost funny.

Yes, the whole developed world and every aid agency going are wrong about the starvation; it’s all manufactured and your man from JewishUncensored YouTube channel is the one with the real facts.

Classy again at least.
 
I’ve just asked Chat GPT to summarise what Hamas have been doing over the last month - this is what came back:

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I couldn’t find any publicly reported statements or official communications from Hamas over the last 30 days. Multiple searches across leading international news agencies—including Reuters, AP and others—show no new press releases or announcements attributed to Hamas during that period.
  • No confirmed public statements, press conferences, or media releases were issued by Hamas in that timeframe.
  • No credible reports of specific military actions—such as rocket launches or coordinated operations—claimed by the group in news coverage.
  • Hamas has stayed relatively quiet in official messaging during the past month.
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CPFCSaturn said:
What are Hamas up to? Is there any evidence, rumours or anything to suggest there’s something worth reporting on? Or you just want them to endlessly express ‘Hamas are evil’ for all time?
The idea that the focus shouldn’t be on the nation killing dozens of people every day is so absurd it’s almost funny.

Yes, the whole developed world and every aid agency going are wrong about the starvation; it’s all manufactured and your man from JewishUncensored YouTube channel is the one with the real facts.

Classy again at least.
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Out of interest, do you think you would have campaigned against Britain's naval blockade on Germany during WW1?
 
Penge Eagle said:
We know Israel controls the airspace - what's your point?

“It also controls all border crossings, including Rafah.”

This is false. The Rafah crossing is controlled by Egypt. The Karem Shalom crossing is jointly controlled.

“Only people are allowed through Rafah from Egypt.”

Again wrong. Both aid and people are allowed through.
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Really? Google says:-

“Israel took control of the Rafah Border Crossing on May 7, 2024, during Gaza war and withdrew in Jan 2025 as part of ceasefire agreement. The crossing was later reoccupied during Operation Might and Sword on 18 March. It remains occupied today and is currently manned by the Gaza Division.”

When Google was asked what is allowed through it said:-

“The Rafah crossing with Egypt is a key entry point for humanitarian aid, despite inconsistent and opaque inspection requirements imposed by Israel. Now no aid can come in, and no one in need of medical evacuation can get out.”

So who is right? Is Google lying?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I would like to know how you think you know that responsible Muslims don’t quietly inform the police if they have information on anyone? For sure they won’t run to the media or otherwise draw attention to themselves because they have the safety of themselves and their family to consider.

I think there are too many assumptions made that just because the decent Muslim communities don’t demonstrate or make public condemnations they somehow accept the grooming. I don’t think it’s true. I think they are reticent to openly condemn but may well be quietly helping where they can. Just as criminals won’t openly grass on one another, for their own safety, but do so quietly when crimes against kids are involved, this is probably no different.

Otherwise where are the police getting any information?
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Coming late to this and in all fairness the police published pics of the four post 7/7 bombers (the crap ones). All good enough images where there were 100s of folk who would recognise them.

The police got ONE positive ID (from his dad). The rest had to be found through police work.

The community would not give up their own notwithstanding what they had attempted and what they would assuredly have tried again. I also suspect de Menezes may still be alive.

If I was from that community I would be ashamed.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Really? Google says:-

“Israel took control of the Rafah Border Crossing on May 7, 2024, during Gaza war and withdrew in Jan 2025 as part of ceasefire agreement. The crossing was later reoccupied during Operation Might and Sword on 18 March. It remains occupied today and is currently manned by the Gaza Division.”

When Google was asked what is allowed through it said:-

“The Rafah crossing with Egypt is a key entry point for humanitarian aid, despite inconsistent and opaque inspection requirements imposed by Israel. Now no aid can come in, and no one in need of medical evacuation can get out.”

So who is right? Is Google lying?
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I would think any crossing has two sides. The Egyptian side has been closed since not long after the conflict. Although I do believe it stayed open for a little while - with obvious consequences. The Israeli side would have to close until they gained full control - which they now have. Now they want to inspect everything for arms - which is understandable. However, it doesn't matter as Egypt is not sending anything through.
Just my reading of it. Not lies as much as omissions I would think.
I expect an agreement can be reached but Israel/ Egypt agreements are perhaps not easy to thrash out. Usually takes a tank brigade or two. Throw in the Palestinians and it's a difficult situation. Clearly, Egypt does not want to intervene or take refugees.
 
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Wisbech Eagle said:
Really? Google says:-

“Israel took control of the Rafah Border Crossing on May 7, 2024, during Gaza war and withdrew in Jan 2025 as part of ceasefire agreement. The crossing was later reoccupied during Operation Might and Sword on 18 March. It remains occupied today and is currently manned by the Gaza Division.”

When Google was asked what is allowed through it said:-

“The Rafah crossing with Egypt is a key entry point for humanitarian aid, despite inconsistent and opaque inspection requirements imposed by Israel. Now no aid can come in, and no one in need of medical evacuation can get out.”

So who is right? Is Google lying?
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You got that first quote from Wikipedia – and there is no media or official citation to that. So yes it is probably made up.

And as for the second one...

www.dw.com

Middle East: Aid trucks begin entering Gaza from Egypt – DW – 07/27/2025

The first aid trucks have arrived in the Palestinian territory to help ease a worsening humanitarian crisis. Israel has announced a pause in the fighting in some areas to help food distribution. DW has the latest.
www.dw.com www.dw.com
 
silvertop said:
Coming late to this and in all fairness the police published pics of the four post 7/7 bombers (the crap ones). All good enough images where there were 100s of folk who would recognise them.

The police got ONE positive ID (from his dad). The rest had to be found through police work.

The community would not give up their own notwithstanding what they had attempted and what they would assuredly have tried again. I also suspect de Menezes may still be alive.

If I was from that community I would be ashamed.
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Main point is that the dad is a grass.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
What are Hamas up to? Is there any evidence, rumours or anything to suggest there’s something worth reporting on? Or you just want them to endlessly express ‘Hamas are evil’ for all time?
The idea that the focus shouldn’t be on the nation killing dozens of people every day is so absurd it’s almost funny.

Yes, the whole developed world and every aid agency going are wrong about the starvation; it’s all manufactured and your man from JewishUncensored YouTube channel is the one with the real facts.

Classy again at least.
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They're holding hostages and shooting people who get in their way. Do they have to make press releases about shitty things they've done?

c**** like Corbyn and his "Gaza Party" of him plus some sectarian muslim MPs using OUR Parliament for a platform for them, part of the problem.

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UK to recognise Palestine statehood in september together with France - Macron had already moved first.

There will be some disappointment with conditions attached but this is still a significant move by the UK.

😎
 
steeleye20 said:
UK to recognise Palestine statehood in september together with France - Macron had already moved first.

There will be some disappointment with conditions attached but this is still a significant move by the UK.

😎
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I thought you didn't like the British drawing lines on a map in the middle east.

It doesn't make any sense anyway.
 
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