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But does she like you?
Is Glasner the problem?
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But does she like you?
ASCPFC
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Some of the time
If you read back through this thread, you'll see there were a few calling for him to go. I'm so glad they didn't get their way cos we wouldn't have won the Cup.
Willo
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Some of the comments have not aged well !
I dont pretend to know more about football than the next bloke but I'm not going to lie, I thought it was ridiculous at the time and it has proven to be a ridiculous viewpoint now that sacking Glasner would have had any positive impact on results whatsoever.
As was said by many at the time, Olise was an important player for us and was sold meaning Glasner had to find a different way.
Our international players Wharton, Eze, Hendo, Guehi all returned to training with less than a weeks rest. Daniel and Lerma didn't get much more than that.
Our new signings were mad way too late in the window to be able to make any kind of an impact until late September/October.
Glasner himself is a winner. People sneered at the Europa league and described it as tin pot which was laughable. Its the second biggest trophy in Europe and he had to overcome Barcelona amongst other big clubs in order to win it.
Even without our lifelong memory of an FA cup win this season we are making strides forward and breaking new ground all the time. 52 points with a chance of 1 or 3 more?
Parish has indicated Glasner will be expected to honor his contract at the very least. As he said in the dressing room Saturday this group if we stick together can achieve amazing things together. Hopefully they will heed his wisdom and want to stick around for next year's adventure.
I personally will always be grateful to Glasner for delivering something I wondered if I'd ever see in my lifetime. A major trophy. Lets all now move forward with the same goal. Getting behind the team and hoping for more success.
As was said by many at the time, Olise was an important player for us and was sold meaning Glasner had to find a different way.
Our international players Wharton, Eze, Hendo, Guehi all returned to training with less than a weeks rest. Daniel and Lerma didn't get much more than that.
Our new signings were mad way too late in the window to be able to make any kind of an impact until late September/October.
Glasner himself is a winner. People sneered at the Europa league and described it as tin pot which was laughable. Its the second biggest trophy in Europe and he had to overcome Barcelona amongst other big clubs in order to win it.
Even without our lifelong memory of an FA cup win this season we are making strides forward and breaking new ground all the time. 52 points with a chance of 1 or 3 more?
Parish has indicated Glasner will be expected to honor his contract at the very least. As he said in the dressing room Saturday this group if we stick together can achieve amazing things together. Hopefully they will heed his wisdom and want to stick around for next year's adventure.
I personally will always be grateful to Glasner for delivering something I wondered if I'd ever see in my lifetime. A major trophy. Lets all now move forward with the same goal. Getting behind the team and hoping for more success.
I didn't call for him to go, but I did think it would be a good idea to adapt to the players available to him this season.
We were no longer in a position to retain the ball as well or press as high as at the end of last season.
Glasner has changed the approach.
We look more defensively resolute, lethal in transition and the best team from set pieces.
Al credit to Glasner, the staff and the players for finding a way to achieve the very good results after the poor start.
We were no longer in a position to retain the ball as well or press as high as at the end of last season.
Glasner has changed the approach.
We look more defensively resolute, lethal in transition and the best team from set pieces.
Al credit to Glasner, the staff and the players for finding a way to achieve the very good results after the poor start.
georgenorman
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Austrians have been pretty strong in Europe in the past ...
Does she know this and do you let her out the cupboard from time to time? 🤣🤣
(sorry couldn’t help myself… no offence meant)
Fanofzhiyi
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I made my first Palace bets in the summer as I am not a gambling man. One was for us to win the league and the other for the champions league qualification. Then 6 or 7 of our players made international finals and olise left. I knew there and then my bets were done for without kicking a ball. But that is the belief I have in this team under Glasner, no expectation but strongly believed we could do something special.
Those first 8 games were worse than I expected I admit and Kamada playing despite looking off the pace started to concern me a lot.
By the end of the season Kamada was a strong member of the squad and we had won the FA cup…..I take that as a win despite losing the bet
Those first 8 games were worse than I expected I admit and Kamada playing despite looking off the pace started to concern me a lot.
By the end of the season Kamada was a strong member of the squad and we had won the FA cup…..I take that as a win despite losing the bet
I remember some bloke, think was a painter……….
georgenorman
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I backed us to win the cup at 16-1!
Pretty happy with this. As the season has gone on we've looked fitter and fitter which has made the high press more effective.
Of those that had the international finals, Guehi, Munoz, Wharton, Mateta, Eze have all been miles better in the second half of the season than the first.
Once Lacroix and Sarr had time to train alongside those they play with (who weren't here), they've fit in brilliantly.
Lesson for future years - get as much of the squad together as early as possible! And trust in Oli.
NEILLO
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Those of us on here backing OG realised the impacts of all the above. Even then, performances were only a little short of expectations in some of those early games.
As to getting the squad together asap, the club has a measure of control over transfers - as SP acknowledged at the weekend. International tournaments are of course another thing !
DANGERCLOSE
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Is the contract situation holding up the transfer window?
NEILLO
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It didn't hold up the signing of Brennan Johnson so you would think not....
CPFCSaturn
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Amazing overlap between this and the more recent 'Glasner Out' thread - more or less all of the same criticisms were levelled at Glasner early last season, and we all know how that story ended.
People never learn.
People never learn.
CPFCSaturn
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The criticisms are fair in the main. He does lack tactical flexibility, he does struggle against teams that give us the ball, he does go on runs of form with us where we struggle to pick up any points, he does seem sometimes to struggle to motivate the team.
On the other hand he also puts us on wins of outstanding form, gets us playing periods of great football and when we are on form we take full advantage. Most importantly he can win trophies.
He is a very high / low manager. The highs are as high as we’ve ever been but there are some lows as well. Doesn’t mean he should get the sack but does mean he isn’t perfect.
CPFCSaturn
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I partly agree - I think he is fairly wedded to his system, and agree it does not look nearly as effective against teams who give us the ball. But I think we've only had two bad runs in the two years he's managed us; the games at the start of last season, and the games over the last month or so - in both cases, I think the context around the results is very explainable; last season it was the late recruitment and lack of pre-season, and now it's a fixture pile-up during a bit of an injury crisis and a lack of squad depth.
Essentially whenever he's had a full, fit squad, we've been consistently really good - 20 games unbeaten or whatever it was doesn't really speak to him being a high/low manager.
NEILLO
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And I haven't seen anyone on here claiming that he is.
The main thrust of the Glasner debate is that some want him out now - as they did in October 24 - and quote some of the issues you raise without taking into consideration any mitigating circumstances.
Based upon that type of reasoning, Silva would have been sacked by Fulham in December, Iraola would be looking for his next job, Frank would be out at Spurs and maybe Slot would have gone from Liverpool.
And here's the best of the lot - in September the media were quoting how much pressure Unai Emery was under after taking only 3 points from the opening 5 games. Look at them now.
If you analyse the good runs of form v. the bad, it shouldn't take long to realise that OG gets better results when he has a fuller squad to select from. Don't most managers ?
And I think you are totally wrong about his ability to motivate his players. We've been punching above our weight on numerous occasions under Glasner. Look at some of the player interviews and see how often they mention his motivational skills.