Is Glasner the problem?

[DefeatedSanity]

OG has made some weird team selections and subs this season that are hard to understand. Is he overthinking and overcomplicating things? His record would suggest he needs time to get his ideas across on the training pitch before things start to gel. He spoke in the presser that this was the first full week's training he's had with the squad this season which is bonkers, so maybe this is just a case of patience.

Several on here were quite vocal in the summer of the need to accept offers for the likes of Andersen, Ayew and Olise (as well as Guehi and others), but you can't expect everything to click when you lose several key players in one go. It's been six games and even within that there was an international break that disrupted things further after a summer that a club of our size is not used to (in terms of losing a huge chunk of the squad to international tournaments).

On the positive side, I think Chalobah could be a big player for us. He has a big personality, is physically big and was probably Chelsea's best defender in their last 10 games. Glasner also has a history of turning things around with a result against a big team.

It's grim, but it's been grimmer.

Agree with you. I think losing two leaders in the dressing room in the forms of Andersen and Ayew has had a big impact. I fail to see any leadership on the pitch at the moment as well which is an issue as when the going gets tough, there's no-one there that is grabbing the team by the scruff of the neck. Hence, heads dropping and failing to get back into games being a problem.

Also think the failure to get in a LWB was a big error. We have nothing going down the left in terms of attacking threat (sorry Mitchell) which causes one of the issues with the balance. Think Glasner is trying to make the current formation work when we're lacking the required personnel. Could be an interesting period coming up.

 

[ASCPFC]

Is Schlupp so sh1t that we can't play him as left Wing Back, which was his natural position for a lot of his career?
How exactly is Mitchell supposed to play 40 odd games a season when no one else ever manages it?

 

[samprior]

Agree with you. I think losing two leaders in the dressing room in the forms of Andersen and Ayew has had a big impact. I fail to see any leadership on the pitch at the moment as well which is an issue as when the going gets tough, there's no-one there that is grabbing the team by the scruff of the neck. Hence, heads dropping and failing to get back into games being a problem.

Also think the failure to get in a LWB was a big error. We have nothing going down the left in terms of attacking threat (sorry Mitchell) which causes one of the issues with the balance. Think Glasner is trying to make the current formation work when we're lacking the required personnel. Could be an interesting period coming up.

2 out of our 3 points have come from losing positions though. We do seem fragile though I know what you mean.

Yesterday the second half was woeful and it wasn't through lack of effort that we couldn't get back into the game but a worrying lack of ideas. We started just lofting hopeful balls into the area which a Dyche team is going to absolutely love.

The broken offseason with 7 key players away and 2 key players sold, one chief creator and one chief leader has left us playing catch up. Fielding a different back 3 and central CM pairing in nearly every game has clearly effected fluency in our play. I'm sure we will improve with more time on the training pitch and players getting fit but the prem is unforgiving and our points return is worrying considering 4 of our opponents are bottom half teams.

I really thought this might be a season where we didn't have to panic as much but looks like I was wrong.

 

[rollercoaster]

When we recruited OG my worry was that he had a system that he used wherever he went and I was concerned that he was a one-trick-pony like Roy abeit a different trick. This is proving to be an issue this season so far and I dont think he can change. It is a case of finding the right combination or players adapting.
Playing some players out of position means individuals are not at their best but maybe the team will benefit overall. I cannot imagine what conversations took place this Summer to turn a balanced working team into the shambles we have seen up til now.
I would give him 4 more games to see if OG can assemble a team that looks capable of winning a game. I would want to see a big improvement in performance but wouldn't get too hung up about points.

 

[MrRobbo]

Same as Munoz currently. He's living off of last year's performances, as are Eze and Mateta.

100%, he's busy, but thats about it.

He's got a reputation as being an attacking fullback, but he's certainly not showing it at the min.

6 games in now and 0 big chances created, and only 8 crosses attempted.

Vs Mitchell who has a reputation of not adding anything going forward, 3 big chances created, and 27 crosses attempted.

 

[JHB]

I see quite a few people saying we haven’t played that badly. I look at it and say we’ve played 6 games and haven’t looked like winning any of them. When you consider the quality of some of the opposition that’s worrying. Yes we’ve had good spells in games but can we honestly say on the balance of 90 mins that we’ve been the better team in any of the games we’ve played? Two of our points came in games we were lucky not to concede a hatful in. We have to face facts that based on form (not quality on paper) we might be the worst team in the division so far.

 

[Hannes]

I see quite a few people saying we haven’t played that badly. I look at it and say we’ve played 6 games and haven’t looked like winning any of them. When you consider the quality of some of the opposition that’s worrying. Yes we’ve had good spells in games but can we honestly say on the balance of 90 mins that we’ve been the better team in any of the games we’ve played? Two of our points came in games we were lucky not to concede a hatful in. We have to face facts that based on form (not quality on paper) we might be the worst team in the division so far.

That’ s usually a sign that you are on a good path for the title….. 😉😀

 

[DenTyler]

Definitely not, OG is trying to find the solution without Decoure in the middle which is proving problematic. The fine end to last season was with Andersen, Olise and Ayew and it will take time for the new players to settle.

We all need to step back and let him get on with it, we haven’t gone from a good side to a bad side overnight…….

Not overnight but over 2 months.

I want OG to work I really do but what I am seeing is worrying. 2 simple changes will make the difference. FFS drop Kamada he is absolutely no better than Ahamada was. Bring Sarr into the team. Pace pace pace.

Second play either JPM or Eddie. I would give Eddie a go because his pace is more of a threat and JPM is being starved service.

We are so slow, a team that keeps going backwards. Last year Wharton looked to play one of the 3 in early.

Infuriating.

 

[ASCPFC]

Heard Roy's flying back from Benidorm.

 

[DenTyler]

I’m not writing off your theory that Eze is sulking, but it can’t be towards SP or the club because we haven’t received a satisfactory public bid or unsatisfactory private bid as far as we know. Playing badly isn’t going to help Eze’s cause and that is the job of the manager to remind him of that if it is the case he’s sulking a bit.

I just don’t think Eze is as good as he is made out to be.

 

[Rainforest]

Looks a better balanced team with the available players in the squad.
Certainly more compact and less exposed in midfield, but possibly lacking width going forward.

I don't think such selection will happen.
Potentially it leaves out Glasner's two signings, assuming Chaloboah or Richards takes one of the centre half spots , and I don't think Glasner will do this.

 

[Rainforest]

Perhaps, Glasner can try a different formation for Wednesday night. Kamada should only start from the bench but only as a last resort.

 

[eagleman13]

Glasner is not the problem, according to a few posters on here & other threads, it's Mitchell.

Ipswich have just equalised v Villa, score stays the same, we are bottom 3.

 

[Hannes]

Looks a better balanced team with the available players in the squad.
Certainly more compact and less exposed in midfield, but possibly lacking width going forward.

I don't think such selection will happen.
Potentially it leaves out Glasner's two signings, assuming Chaloboah or Richards takes one of the centre half spots , and I don't think Glasner will do this.

Why Not? Charity begins at home….

 

[Crystal_Clear]

I see that Bayern are rubbing it in.

Bayern Munich feel they've signed '£100m star for half price' in Michael Olise

Michael Olise has enjoyed an electric start to his Bayern Munich career and Allianz Arena chiefs are understood to be delighted with their £50million acquisition of the Frenchman, who has needed no time to settle into his new surroundings in Germany

www.google.com

Perhaps we should have let them have Glasner as well ? I honestly thought he was more astute than what he is currently showing.

 

[Painter]

Is Schlupp so sh1t that we can't play him as left Wing Back, which was his natural position for a lot of his career?
How exactly is Mitchell supposed to play 40 odd games a season when no one else ever manages it?

Schlupp has been here for 8 years and second longest player in the squad, he has never been picked at left wing back, that might tell you something.
Mitchell gets a lot of criticism unfairly, often gets best match ratings in our back 4 in the press.

 

[ASCPFC]

Schlupp has been here for 8 years and second longest player in the squad, he has never been picked at left wing back, that might tell you something.
Mitchell gets a lot of criticism unfairly, often gets best match ratings in our back 4 in the press.

We never really played a wing back system. However, I was pretty sure that's where he played for Leicester. I'm not saying Mitchell is poor but if Schlupp isn't providing cover or competition then who is? Mitchell would be guaranteed a place even if he played poorly currently. I would be interested in how (I think it's Umeh) a youngster could do. I know Adamarola was injured - he may not even be with us anymore. It's impossible to expect Mitchell to play every minute of every game.

 

[grumpymort]

We never really played a wing back system. However, I was pretty sure that's where he played for Leicester. I'm not saying Mitchell is poor but if Schlupp isn't providing cover or competition then who is? Mitchell would be guaranteed a place even if he played poorly currently. I would be interested in how (I think it's Umeh) a youngster could do. I know Adamarola was injured - he may not even be with us anymore. It's impossible to expect Mitchell to play every minute of every game.

Schlupp can't defend. (works better as impact sub player who drives forward)

Mitchell can defend the issue with him is he is having to do attack & defend which is why he struggles especially second half he just doesn't have the natural ability/fitness.

We don't have any cover on left side which is why it's always Mitchell remember at ones stage it was the same on right side look how long that has taken to sort out years.

Glasner is looking just like Roy keeps picking same people odd subs & if something doesn't work keep doing same thing until it does (Remember both had great ends to seasons and then poor starts)

To the people who are saying its only 6 games look at teams we have played and poor performances.

We don't even defend well anymore & when you look at Chelsea game plus Man United it was down to them why we didn't get thumped.

Liverpool will stuff us the way they have been playing vs if he keeps it same system plus players.

 

[Davepalace707]

Look at Ipswich - their squad is on paper no match for ours BUT they’ve got enthusiasm, they were organised and they all went for it for 90 minutes. All of which we didn’t have yesterday. Feels to me like the 12 year run is becoming a millstone. We haven’t progressed with the ground, relative to the league our squad isn’t much better. It’s all a bit stale.

 

[VinceHilaire]

I was watching Ipswich Town today. Not a team full of ‘star’ players, but their work rate was excellent. They were well organised and fighting for the full 90 mins! A simple game plan, playing to their strengths.

At this present time, we are definitely a bottom 3 team. It’s sad, because we all fell into the trap believing that we were going to have a great season.

I’m preying Glasner (and the players) sort things out. A positive result against Liverpool is just the medicine! 💊