So you accused me of posting misinformation whilst actually posting misinformation yourself? Something you now blame Copilot for? Maybe you should check sources first!
This is from the “migration observatory” link you now provide:-
“Unemployed migrant workers were less likely to claim unemployment benefits than UK-born workers during 2022 (Figure 5). There are several possible reasons for this pattern:
- Some migrants are not eligible to claim benefits. Most non-EU citizens who are not permanently settled residents—including skilled workers and international students—are ineligible for income-based Jobseekers’ Allowance and Universal Credit, as are EU citizens who moved to the UK after 31 December 2020 and do not have pre-settled or settled status. For more information about which migrants are eligible to claim benefits, see the Migration Observatory briefing, Deprivation and the no recourse to public funds (NRPF) condition.
- Migrant workers eligible to receive unemployment benefits may not understand their entitlements or may be unfamiliar with the process of claiming or visiting job centres.
- Migrants were less likely to be unemployed for long periods. In 2022, 26% of those born in the UK who were unemployed had been so for over a year, compared to 20% of non-EU migrants and 15% of EU migrants.”
Did I detect an apology hiding in your post, masquerading as confusion? There was no confusion at all. It was misinformation, deliberately posted because it supported an incorrect narrative you wanted to promote.
No, there's no apology but I think I should clarify.
I will note that you complaining about misinformation is like a shark complaining about a fish diet, your misleading visa comment was the entire start of this exchange.
The statistics I gave were not false, however they came without an explanation of how they were reached and this a problem with the AI program I was using....Copilot.....Which didn't explain its findings as well as Grok does.
Putting the statistic that 58 percent of immigrants from non European countries were employed I find that this dataset is from the 2021 Census. It only applied to ages 16+ and not 16-64, which I think was the dataset you were using.....However it still shows the better real burden on the taxpayer but It's frustrating that I was given a dataset from 2021.....but that's because I don't think that particular 16+ analysis has been updated since.
The 16-64 date dataset appears to show non-European immigrants employment was 74.1%, which is still slightly below the national rate but obviously significantly higher than 58.
I have some comments on this however, as these imported workers are not only undercutting the wages of British born workers but that a percent, probably not even officially in the figures are also a magnet for exploitation by criminal gangs and illegal employment....Which is an expanding and growing as an imported problem we didn't need. Some of this exploitation involves sex work and indented servitude.....In the case of indented servitude a problem almost never heard of before in modern Britain.
Also many of them will also be sending back part of their wages out of the country....something unlikely with the working class native born.
So in several ways, even if you ignore the social cohesion point, these workers are a downgrade on a native worker.....British jobs for British workers was always the best route, but the business lobby are transactional and don't care about anything other than the bottom line.
The job of caring should be by our leaders and the British population should be first, second and third.
On the other statistic of 70.8 percent of EU migrants working in employment.....Again this is for a 16+ dataset from the 2021 census and not an 16-64 which you found. Once again, I observe that the 16+ figure represents the more accurate real burden upon the taxpayer as it represents who is actually here.....though personally I regard European migrants as less of an issue for previously explained reasons.....first amongst them being that they actually slightly (and it's only slightly) bring in more financially than they take out.....Whereas with non Europeans that picture is reversed.....and if I remember correctly it isn't even close.
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