Immigration

[Teddy Eagle]

That’s definitely untrue. Falmouth has more students, some of whom will work part time in food outlets, but Truro has a higher number of overseas workers simply because the Royal Cornwall Hospital is there. If you only saw 5 then you are selective in who you classify as being from an “ethnic” background. I know it’s February but there are visitors here off season, a high proportion being from overseas. I suppose “obviously” is your get out as many of them are from Europe or the USA and look like us.

Nobody would suggest that Truro is as ethnically diverse as some other places, but it has noticeably increased in recent years and is more ethnically diverse than many others, in Cornwall and elsewhere. There is a lot of the UK that isn’t inner city!

Sure. It's a real melting pot.

Truro Census 2021.

Ethnicity, race, religion, health, deprivation, employment activity, partnership, cars per household.

www.plumplot.co.uk

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Sure. It's a real melting pot.

Truro Census 2021.

Ethnicity, race, religion, health, deprivation, employment activity, partnership, cars per household.

www.plumplot.co.uk

Do you actually read what I write? I said that things have changed noticeably.

That survey dates from 2021! 4 years ago!

If another was done today it would paint a different picture. Not overwhelmingly different but noticeably.

You cannot compare the most southerly city in the UK, tucked away in the rural south west with the magnets that exist in the big cities up country. People aren’t attracted here unless they have skills in short supply. As in the NHS.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Not the most pleasant ending.

A bit like the statistical misinformation you were posting a few posts ago in your efforts to suggest fewer immigrants are employed than locally born workers!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Do you actually read what I write? I said that things have changed noticeably.

That survey dates from 2021! 4 years ago!

If another was done today it would paint a different picture. Not overwhelmingly different but noticeably.

You cannot compare the most southerly city in the UK, tucked away in the rural south west with the magnets that exist in the big cities up country. People aren’t attracted here unless they have skills in short supply. As in the NHS.

Right. So it might now be 5 out of every hundred people and they mostly work for the NHS.

 

[cryrst]

Right. So it might now be 5 out of every hundred people and they mostly work for the NHS.

Even facts are a lie in his mind 🤔

 

[Stirlingsays]

A bit like the statistical misinformation you were posting a few posts ago in your efforts to suggest fewer immigrants are employed than locally born workers!

The irony of the guy who pushed misinformation with his 'many' visas then complaining about accurate data from a different dataset.

Same old, same old.

I might look at it again tomorrow if I can be bothered.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The irony of the guy who pushed misinformation with his 'many' visas then complaining about accurate data from a different dataset.

Same old, same old.

I might look at it again tomorrow if I can be bothered.

You won’t be bothered. It is far too embarrassing. You will try to let it die and smother it in yet another diversion.

Just as you do in the above inaccurate assertion.

You posted misinformation. Man up, admit it, apologise and move on.

 

[Stirlingsays]

You won’t be bothered. It is far too embarrassing. You will try to let it die and smother it in yet another diversion.

Just as you do in the above inaccurate assertion.

You posted misinformation. Man up, admit it, apologise and move on.

I'm not like you crusty.

I'll probably look at it tomorrow.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Right. So it might now be 5 out of every hundred people and they mostly work for the NHS.

Until another survey is done I would only be guessing. I don’t know. All I have done is report my own observations, which suggest there is a noticeable increase in recent years.

Something that has been confirmed by my contacts within the Hospital. Which is where my wife works. I am there twice every day she works, so usually 8 times a week. Always at shift change over times. The number of African and Asian staff now compared to even 2 years ago is obvious.

Not just in the hospital but in the whole care sector. Recruitment of overseas care assistants now being allowed.

It’s clearly not going to impact the overall % massively but that’s not the point. The assertion made is always that immigration doesn’t touch places like Truro. When it does.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I'm not like you crusty.

I'll probably look at it tomorrow.

On that we can, unusually, agree.

You are most certainly not like me. Something I am very happy about. I would hate to be like you.

 

[Stirlingsays]

On that we can, unusually, agree.

You are most certainly not like me. Something I am very happy about. I would hate to be like you.

I agree, the erections alone would probably finish you off.

 

[cryrst]

I agree, the erections alone would probably finish you off.

😂😂😂

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Until another survey is done I would only be guessing. I don’t know. All I have done is report my own observations, which suggest there is a noticeable increase in recent years.

Something that has been confirmed by my contacts within the Hospital. Which is where my wife works. I am there twice every day she works, so usually 8 times a week. Always at shift change over times. The number of African and Asian staff now compared to even 2 years ago is obvious.

Not just in the hospital but in the whole care sector. Recruitment of overseas care assistants now being allowed.

It’s clearly not going to impact the overall % massively but that’s not the point. The assertion made is always that immigration doesn’t touch places like Truro. When it does.

No, that isn't the point; that will become clearer when the percentage is over 50 %.

 

[Spiderman]

That’s definitely untrue. Falmouth has more students, some of whom will work part time in food outlets, but Truro has a higher number of overseas workers simply because the Royal Cornwall Hospital is there. If you only saw 5 then you are selective in who you classify as being from an “ethnic” background. I know it’s February but there are visitors here off season, a high proportion being from overseas. I suppose “obviously” is your get out as many of them are from Europe or the USA and look like us.

Nobody would suggest that Truro is as ethnically diverse as some other places, but it has noticeably increased in recent years and is more ethnically diverse than many others, in Cornwall and elsewhere. There is a lot of the UK that isn’t inner city!

Firstly, you are of course more of an expert as you live in Truro, so I am not going to argue. However, I have written what I experienced yesterday, yes “obviously “ meant those whose appearance suggested they were from an ethnic background, I only spoke to shop assistants, all who were English, something that is somewhat unfamiliar to me, even living in Horsham!
My comment regarding Falmouth was regarding the makeup of food outlets, not their employees… kebab shops, Turkish barbers etc.
Obviously Truro is not an inner city, I think the discussions have suggested exactly the opposite

 

[Badger11]

Just back from Cyprus, both at Heathrow and Larnaca they have new passport machines.

So you have to scan your passport the machine then takes a photograph of you and prints out a copy. You then approach the immigration official with passport and printed photo and I assume he checks them both.

Spiderman is our expert I assume this is an attempt to stop illegals destroying their passport when they land?

 

[Spiderman]

Just back from Cyprus, both at Heathrow and Larnaca they have new passport machines.

So you have to scan your passport the machine then takes a photograph of you and prints out a copy. You then approach the immigration official with passport and printed photo and I assume he checks them both.

Spiderman is our expert I assume this is an attempt to stop illegals destroying their passport when they land?

Sorry Badger, this is new one on me. Where were these machines? In arrivals? As far as I know
, certainly in the UK we are still just using the egates, which negates having to see an Immigration Officer. I will make some enquiries.
With regard to destroying documents, this is usually done on the plane and they present themselves as documentless on arrival. The other scenario is that an “ agent” is on the same plane and takes the document so it can be recirculated

 

[Badger11]

Sorry Badger, this is new one on me. Where were these machines? In arrivals? As far as I know
, certainly in the UK we are still just using the egates, which negates having to see an Immigration Officer. I will make some enquiries.
With regard to destroying documents, this is usually done on the plane and they present themselves as documentless on arrival. The other scenario is that an “ agent” is on the same plane and takes the document so it can be recirculated

No this was departures at both Heathrow and Larnaca. I still used the egates at Heathrow when we arrived back home.

So even if you destroy your documents on the plane they have a record of who left the UK on which passport and an actual photo of the person which should match the passport.

I guess the question then is do they share this data? If I am scanned at Larnaca and then destroy my documents can Heathrow get the data from Cyprus?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I agree, the erections alone would probably finish you off.

I gave up willy contests 70 years ago! Now being 80 and having prostate cancer means I would need to enter the para version. Which I undoubtedly would win for reasons that must remain secret, at least for the time being.

At your age I went through something of a purple patch. I suspect you may be going through a blue one!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

No, that isn't the point; that will become clearer when the percentage is over 50 %.

Not to me it won’t. It won’t happen here, or anywhere else in the rural parts of the UK, during my lifetime or for generations after that.

It wouldn’t bother me anyway. What bothers me is behaviour, not who is doing the behaving. So long as people are respectful, both of me and the culture I treasure, all is good. It’s down to us to ensure that happens. If you care enough about that then you put the effort in.

I was in Exeter last Saturday evening and saw some awful behaviour and attitudes. Much of it from loud mouthed, aggressive, obese and under dressed young women. All of whom appeared to be locally born.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I gave up willy contests 70 years ago! Now being 80 and having prostate cancer means I would need to enter the para version. Which I undoubtedly would win for reasons that must remain secret, at least for the time being.

At your age I went through something of a purple patch. I suspect you may be going through a blue one!

Blue pills = Viagra?

I must admit, I didn't really understand much about your first paragraph, though you do have my sympathy for your prostate cancer: disagreements or not.