Grooming gangs

[Wisbech Eagle]

There are several levels of scumbaggery involved in all this. Scumbag 1st Class are the actual perpetrators of the mass-rape of children. 2nd class are those in the ‘communities’ and authorities that deliberately ignored what was going on when they knew full well that it was going on. 3rd class are those that make excuses for the 2nd class scumbags and try to pretend that there are no ‘heritage’, cultural and political factors involved in the whole scandal.

If you have any evidence of anyone deliberately ignoring the mass rape of children then take it to the police tomorrow. They are bound to act on it.

If however all you are doing is repeating the innuendo and rumour being constantly spread in right wing echo chambers I suggest you pause and realise that not everything you read that you want to be true, is true.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

If you have any evidence of anyone deliberately ignoring the mass rape of children then take it to the police tomorrow. They are bound to act on it.

If however all you are doing is repeating the innuendo and rumour being constantly spread in right wing echo chambers I suggest you pause and realise that not everything you read that you want to be true, is true.

It's as though the last twenty years never happened.

How the grooming gangs scandal was covered up

The child victims of rape were denied justice and protection from the state to preserve the image of a successful multicultural society

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

If those decisions were taken based on ideology there should be some degree of accountability.
The same standards apply to all? Really? When those of whom you approve act in good faith and those of whom you don't are malicious liars that's just not true.

Any accountability for ideology comes at the ballot box. Not in politically motivated enquiries or courts.

I don’t differentiate between people of good faith at all. I detest the politics of both Corbyn and Farage but I think they both hold them in good faith.

Farage impressed me last week by refusing to buckle to Musk over Yaxley-Lennon.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Any accountability for ideology comes at the ballot box. Not in politically motivated enquiries or courts.

I don’t differentiate between people of good faith at all. I detest the politics of both Corbyn and Farage but I think they both hold them in good faith.

Farage impressed me last week by refusing to buckle to Musk over Yaxley-Lennon.

Who voted for the Home Office?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It's as though the last twenty years never happened.

How the grooming gangs scandal was covered up

The child victims of rape were denied justice and protection from the state to preserve the image of a successful multicultural society

www.telegraph.co.uk

I cannot read that but the way any right wing newspaper presents such things doesn’t mean that it actually happened like that. Just because it’s constantly reported in that way doesn’t mean it’s true.

There could be perfectly reasonable reasons why those decisions were taken then, with the information available. If it was thought to be the best way to achieve the best outcome then it was the right decision at the time. It might look foolish 20 years later, but many things do.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Who voted for the Home Office?

No one.

They, at least legally, aren’t responsible for policy.

 

[Spiderman]

The vast majority of grooming gang offences are carried out by white men, the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) has said.

New figures from the police database show that, where ethnicity data was available, 85% of “group-based” child abusers were white in the first three quarters of 2024.

'Offences where grooming gangs are involved are predominantly white. There is not a significant issue here with any particular ethnicity or setting'

😎

Where ethnicity data was available 🤔. Albanians are White. I will say no more

 

[Spiderman]

Glad to know where our taxes go. Served only 2.5 years and then went back to his wife and children. Oh and Wissie, he was a religious teacher in a mosque, a fine upstanding member of his community

Rochdale grooming gang cost taxpayers more than £2million in legal aid

Members of a child sex grooming gang have cost taxpayers more than £2m in legal aid bills while battling deportation - with £285,000 paid to the ringleader, it emerged yesterday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Teddy Eagle]

No one.

They, at least legally, aren’t responsible for policy.

Where did the claimed email originate?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I cannot read that but the way any right wing newspaper presents such things doesn’t mean that it actually happened like that. Just because it’s constantly reported in that way doesn’t mean it’s true.

There could be perfectly reasonable reasons why those decisions were taken then, with the information available. If it was thought to be the best way to achieve the best outcome then it was the right decision at the time. It might look foolish 20 years later, but many things do.

If you can't read it how do you know how it's presented? The thing is it wasn't just a decision made 20 years ago. It was a decision which held for many years.

 

[HKOwen]

To fuel his contrarian trolling WE is a child rape apologist. Heinous, TDS was risible, this is disgusting.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Where did the claimed email originate?

Was it said to be an email? Or a memo?

Whatever is said or done, or whoever is the source, policy ultimately lies in the hands of the government. Civil servants advise. I know that in practice Ministers often do little other than read briefing notes given to them by those who report to them but that does alter where the responsibility lies.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

If you can't read it how do you know how it's presented? The thing is it wasn't just a decision made 20 years ago. It was a decision which held for many years.

Experience informs.

Both me on the way things are presented and those who determine policy.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

I don't want to detract from the topic of the thread. There is the 'ignore' facility on HOL, which i find exceptionally useful to avoid reading some posters contributions. Don't feed the troll.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Experience informs.

Both me on the way things are presented and those who determine policy.

Dismissing that article because it appeared in a "right wing" paper is odd when it was a Tory government in power during the time in question.
Once again I'll ask for news sources which are acceptable.

 

[HKOwen]

I don't want to detract from the topic of the thread. There is the 'ignore' facility on HOL, which i find exceptionally useful to avoid reading some posters contributions. Don't feed the troll.

I use the IB the troll but happened to open see the thread without being logged in so the IB was not activated.

 

[Spiderman]

Another load of right wing “nonsense”, presumably. TBF not all Asian but certainly not White Anglo-Saxon

Map reveals shocking extent of Asian grooming gangs across 41 UK towns

The full extent of the UK's paedophile Asian grooming gangs shame is laid bare by a shocking MailOnline investigation looking at cases spanning over the last two decades.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Dismissing that article because it appeared in a "right wing" paper is odd when it was a Tory government in power during the time in question.
Once again I'll ask for news sources which are acceptable.

I used to have the Telegraph delivered so have years of experience of its approach.

I regard newspapers with suspicion just because of their proprietors.

I trust news sources who don’t have commercial interests at their core.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I used to have the Telegraph delivered so have years of experience of its approach.

I regard newspapers with suspicion just because of their proprietors.

I trust news sources who don’t have commercial interests at their core.

And which ones are they?

 

[Runningman]

I don't want to detract from the topic of the thread. There is the 'ignore' facility on HOL, which i find exceptionally useful to avoid reading some posters contributions. Don't feed the troll.

My blood pressure has dropped dramatically since I used the IB. Only used it for one poster though 🤪