Glasner Out

samprior said:
Interestingly a good mate of mine is a big Cherries fan and he said they're also awful playing against a low block. Iraola would definitely be my first choice as a Glasner replacement (unlikely I know) but it seems even that might not be an instant solution to unlocking teams who sit with 11 men behind the ball. I can't blame Larnaca as they're clearly very good at it in this competition. Hopefully between the 180th-270th minute against them we'll finally come up with an answer!
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I wouldn't worry about that too much. We are focusing on our struggles against low blocks because we have faced them so poorly this year. Overall though, we haven't faced them too much and won't next year by the time the new man gets here.

We are very unlikely to be back in the conference league next year through finishing high enough in the league. If we are in Europe it'll be in the higher-ranked Europa league where we will meet less bus-parking, once-in-a-lifetime-chance-to-kill-a-game-at-the-famous-Selhurst-Park merchants. It will remain the case that far fewer premier league sides will park busses against us than will take us on.

Overall, I don't feel like beating low blocks is high up on the list of qualities the new manager needs to have.

I also don't espsically hold the absence of that quality against Glasner. There is as much to be said for a settled approach as for tactical flexibility, and if he feels a 343 with 5 defenders and 2 holding midfielders is the likliest route to relative success for Palace overall then thats his call. Its not obvious that he's wrong, and nobody was moaning about it last year. Perhaps he has been taken by surprise by these frustrating games against unknown European minnows, or perhaps he expected it but felt it was not so big a problem as to justify moving away from the system the players are familiar with. We are, after all, still in the competition.

Either way, this is probably the only season where we will even remotely care about how to beat low blocks. I expect we will soon revert to taking advantage of that approach far more than being frustrated by it!
 
TheBigToePunt said:
I wouldn't worry about that too much. We are focusing on our struggles against low blocks because we have faced them so poorly this year. Overall though, we haven't faced them too much and won't next year by the time the new man gets here.

We are very unlikely to be back in the conference league next year through finishing high enough in the league. If we are in Europe it'll be in the higher-ranked Europa league where we will meet less bus-parking, once-in-a-lifetime-chance-to-kill-a-game-at-the-famous-Selhurst-Park merchants. It will remain the case that far fewer premier league sides will park busses against us than will take us on.

Overall, I don't feel like beating low blocks is high up on the list of qualities the new manager needs to have.

I also don't espsically hold the absence of that quality against Glasner. There is as much to be said for a settled approach as for tactical flexibility, and if he feels a 343 with 5 defenders and 2 holding midfielders is the likliest route to relative success for Palace overall then thats his call. Its not obvious that he's wrong, and nobody was moaning about it last year. Perhaps he has been taken by surprise by these frustrating games against unknown European minnows, or perhaps he expected it but felt it was not so big a problem as to justify moving away from the system the players are familiar with. We are, after all, still in the competition.

Either way, this is probably the only season where we will even remotely care about how to beat low blocks. I expect we will soon revert to taking advantage of that approach far more than being frustrated by it!
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Comments rooted in sound judgement.
Jolly well done. 👍
 
Is it me or there a bit of a weird vibe around selhurst of late? I'm not even looking forward to the game on Sunday.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
I wouldn't worry about that too much. We are focusing on our struggles against low blocks because we have faced them so poorly this year. Overall though, we haven't faced them too much and won't next year by the time the new man gets here.

We are very unlikely to be back in the conference league next year through finishing high enough in the league. If we are in Europe it'll be in the higher-ranked Europa league where we will meet less bus-parking, once-in-a-lifetime-chance-to-kill-a-game-at-the-famous-Selhurst-Park merchants. It will remain the case that far fewer premier league sides will park busses against us than will take us on.

Overall, I don't feel like beating low blocks is high up on the list of qualities the new manager needs to have.

I also don't espsically hold the absence of that quality against Glasner. There is as much to be said for a settled approach as for tactical flexibility, and if he feels a 343 with 5 defenders and 2 holding midfielders is the likliest route to relative success for Palace overall then thats his call. Its not obvious that he's wrong, and nobody was moaning about it last year. Perhaps he has been taken by surprise by these frustrating games against unknown European minnows, or perhaps he expected it but felt it was not so big a problem as to justify moving away from the system the players are familiar with. We are, after all, still in the competition.

Either way, this is probably the only season where we will even remotely care about how to beat low blocks. I expect we will soon revert to taking advantage of that approach far more than being frustrated by it!
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It would have been quicker to type, “one dimensional manager who picks up points by playing counter attacking football but is incapable of setting up a team to beat inferior opponents who don’t allow you to counterattack”.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
I wouldn't worry about that too much. We are focusing on our struggles against low blocks because we have faced them so poorly this year. Overall though, we haven't faced them too much and won't next year by the time the new man gets here.

We are very unlikely to be back in the conference league next year through finishing high enough in the league. If we are in Europe it'll be in the higher-ranked Europa league where we will meet less bus-parking, once-in-a-lifetime-chance-to-kill-a-game-at-the-famous-Selhurst-Park merchants. It will remain the case that far fewer premier league sides will park busses against us than will take us on.

Overall, I don't feel like beating low blocks is high up on the list of qualities the new manager needs to have.

I also don't espsically hold the absence of that quality against Glasner. There is as much to be said for a settled approach as for tactical flexibility, and if he feels a 343 with 5 defenders and 2 holding midfielders is the likliest route to relative success for Palace overall then thats his call. Its not obvious that he's wrong, and nobody was moaning about it last year. Perhaps he has been taken by surprise by these frustrating games against unknown European minnows, or perhaps he expected it but felt it was not so big a problem as to justify moving away from the system the players are familiar with. We are, after all, still in the competition.

Either way, this is probably the only season where we will even remotely care about how to beat low blocks. I expect we will soon revert to taking advantage of that approach far more than being frustrated by it!
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It is and i was, the way to beat the low block is the old Wimbledon way, diagonal long balls to the corner of the box, head across and 3/4 players to feed on the knockdowns, the more the ball is in the box the more chance of scoring, not pretty but affective.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
It is and i was, the way to beat the low block is the old Wimbledon way, diagonal long balls to the corner of the box, head across and 3/4 players to feed on the knockdowns, the more the ball is in the box the more chance of scoring, not pretty but affective.
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Do all these managers the world over who are making effective use of the low block at every level of the game realise that you have distilled this tactical Kryptonite?!
 
What frustrates me is the total lack of variety. No element of surprise or unpredictability. It’s the same set of moves, repeated over and over again.

I would love to see someone running directly at the defence, not expecting to beat them all but drawing fouls, hopefully in the box, creating havoc and panic, allowing for second ball opportunities to arise as well as free kicks and penalties. For sure we would lose possession more often but encouraging them forward and trusting our defence would in turn create the spaces we thrive on.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
It is and i was, the way to beat the low block is the old Wimbledon way, diagonal long balls to the corner of the box, head across and 3/4 players to feed on the knockdowns, the more the ball is in the box the more chance of scoring, not pretty but affective.
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Even if true, no one wants to see that.

I think the solution to massively defensive play is a rule change....what that could be I'll leave up to others.
 
eaglesdare said:
Is it me or there a bit of a weird vibe around selhurst of late? I'm not even looking forward to the game on Sunday.
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What I can say is, the vibe created in 2025, when we were winning and tasting success has certainly now been less enthusiastic.

However, that’s probably understandable given the circumstances?!
 
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VinceHilaire said:
What I can say is, the vibe created in 2025, when we were winning and tasting success has certainly now been less enthusiastic.

However, that’s probably understandable given the circumstances?!
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Only 3 Home PL victories in 14 games could be a contributing factor.
More recently, only defeating rock-bottom Wolves with a solitary goal in the final minute, losing to struggling Burnley after taking a 2-0 lead and of course failing to score against AEK Larnaca, hardly generates enthusiasm.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Even if true, no one wants to see that.

I think the solution to massively defensive play is a rule change....what that could be I'll leave up to others.
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OK I haven't thought this through - but do u mean something like the "power play" in cricket when at set times you can only have a pre-set number of fielders inside or outside the circle -

Could work using the penalty area ?
IDK - Something like no more than 8 players from either side(s) (including the keeper) in the box at any one time ?

In breach of the rule = Penalty kick ?

Or ?
 
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Willo said:
Only 3 Home PL victories in 14 games could be a contributing factor.
More recently, only defeating rock-bottom Wolves with a solitary goal in the final minute, losing to struggling Burnley after taking a 2-0 lead and of course failing to score against AEK Larnaca, hardly generates enthusiasm.
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Larnaca I read have kept 6 clean sheets out of 7 conference games this season. They are no mugs.
 
Ex Dubai Eagle said:
OK I haven't thought this through - but do u mean something like the "power play" in cricket when at set times you can only have a pre-set number of fielders inside or outside the circle -

Could work using the penalty area ?
IDK - Something like no more than 8 players from either side(s) (including the keeper) in the box at any one time ?

In breach of the rule = Penalty kick ?

Or ?
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It's good you're thinking about it but I don't think it can work in a game like football, where movement is fast flowing. With cricket, fielders are in mostly fixed positions before the ball is bowled.

I think perhaps a rule that says that each team must make at least four attempts on goal from half way into the opposition's half....otherwise they lose a man in the second half...Something like that because the Ref can track that easily.

But I'm sure someone can come up with a better way.
 
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