Five stabbed at ASDA beddington.

[PalazioVecchio]

both 'stop & search' and riot police are likely to have zero effect on our streets becoming violent.

the solution to the problem ? too many nutters are running amok. The Southport attack was certainly a failing of the authorities. Beddington ? dunno. The media are saying the stabber was an ex-employee.
It reminds me of the US expression 'to go postal' or 'going postal'. Ex employees often rampage there with firearms.

 

[DanH]

Truth is, if this were a white English attack then the photo, name and address would already be all over the news.
If this were a far right attack, the country would be in mourning.
So this is just the normal, everyday perpetrator it always is. But apparently I'm just racist to think that. Despite it being always the same, like groundhog day. I'm starting to not get angry or shocked by it. Just being accepted now as common place by many I guess.
It's not an acceptable situation but when it's all the time people are just numb to it.
I noted there was no reporting on the Germany stabbings more or less on international news more or less. I guess they couldn't have that and Axel scum from Southport or people might wonder at the politics of it all.

People are right that Reform isn't enough. AFD type party required.

I'd like to hear an argument against loads more stop and search. And I'd like to hear it from Khan.

More hyperbolic nonsense.

 

[ASCPFC]

More hyperbolic nonsense.

Yes it is - see above.

 

[eaglesdare]

I don't hear any solutions or pro active steps from the looney lefties on how to reduce knife crime, muggings, rapes, murders, terrorist incidents etc...from a certain group of people based on statistics. All you hear is "that's racist." Instead ll they want is for us to hush hush about it and if we say anything we should be arrested.

It feels like they want all this to be normal way of life? 🤷🏻‍♂️

But anyways feels like the same conversation every day or week when the same thing happens over and over and over again.

 

[Spiderman]

More hyperbolic nonsense.

Is it?

 

[DanH]

Is it?

Of course it is. One of you find me an example of it being true and I’ll reconsider.

 

[Spiderman]

Where am I apologising and where am I far left please?

Why were you asking about a description of the attacker?

I don’t think you are far left Dan, but because I am right of centre I am being classed as far right. Is that fair?

 

[DanH]

I don't hear any solutions or pro active steps from the looney lefties on how to reduce knife crime, muggings, rapes, murders, terrorist incidents etc...from a certain group of people based on statistics. All you hear is "that's racist." Instead ll they want is for us to hush hush about it and if we say anything we should be arrested.

It feels like they want all this to be normal way of life? 🤷🏻‍♂️

But anyways feels like the same conversation every day or week when the same thing happens over and over and over again.

Glasgow have had great success:

How Glasgow is beating knife crime

The Scottish city launched a pioneering initiative after being branded murder capital of Europe in 2005

theweek.com

 

[DanH]

I don’t think you are far left Dan, but because I am right of centre I am being classed as far right. Is that fair?

Nope. You still seem one of the more rational right wing posters on here!

Not every poster on here is far/hard right, but some very much are.

 

[eaglesdare]

Glasgow have had great success:

How Glasgow is beating knife crime

The Scottish city launched a pioneering initiative after being branded murder capital of Europe in 2005

theweek.com

"Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick, London Mayor Sadiq Khan and Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn have all gone to Carnochan for advice, but according to The Spectator, he found them to be bad listeners. “I don’t think they were happy to hear that stop and search is an integral part of stopping knife crime,” Carnochan said."

And there you have it.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

More hyperbolic nonsense.

Oh, Dan!...Dan!...DAN!

There are plenty of immigrants and their kids minding their business and working hard.

I was at the dentists today. The 4 receptionists were Asian, my dentist was Black, her assistant was Asian. I saw 2 other dentists. One was Muslim, the other Indian.

No one is suggesting we deport them or anyone because of their ethnicity.

The problem is the lack of care and common sense in selecting suitable candidates to settle here and the increasing number of illegals who we know nothing about. It's criminally negligent.

Too many have arrived and it has to stop while Britain is still recognisable.

 

[DanH]

"Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick, London Mayor Sadiq Khan and Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn have all gone to Carnochan for advice, but according to The Spectator, he found them to be bad listeners. “I don’t think they were happy to hear that stop and search is an integral part of stopping knife crime,” Carnochan said."

And there you have it.

Yep. Stupid. It needs a combination of understanding the root causes of why many feel the need to carry a knife in the first place and help stop people getting into gangs, as well as a strong deterrent with punishment and active police enforcement.

 

[DanH]

Oh, Dan!...Dan!...DAN!

There are plenty of immigrants and their kids minding their business and working hard.

I was at the dentists today. The 4 receptionists were Asian, my dentist was Black, her assistant was Asian. I saw 2 other dentists. One was Muslim, the other Indian.

No one is suggesting we deport them or anyone because of their ethnicity.

The problem is the lack of care and common sense in selecting suitable candidates to settle here and the increasing number of illegals who we know nothing about. It's criminally negligent.

Too many have arrived and it has to stop while Britain is still recognisable.

I don’t disagree with anything there (other than you ruining it yourself a bit with those last 5 words) but this literally has nothing to do with the post you quoted son 🙂

 

[ASCPFC]

Glasgow have had great success:

How Glasgow is beating knife crime

The Scottish city launched a pioneering initiative after being branded murder capital of Europe in 2005

theweek.com

The first part of it was admitting they had a problem. The second part was targeting those they believed were likely to be part of the issue.
Neither of those things are happening in England. Particularly not in London. They will not happen without a change in policies.

 

[DanH]

The first part of it was admitting they had a problem. The second part was targeting those they believed were likely to be part of the issue.
Neither of those things are happening in England. Particularly not in London. They will not happen without a change in policies.

Agreed. It also costs money, which this and previous governments seem unwilling to spend on it.

 

[eaglesdare]

Yep. Stupid. It needs a combination of understanding the root causes of why many feel the need to carry a knife in the first place and help stop people getting into gangs, as well as a strong deterrent with punishment and active police enforcement.

Which won't happen because you then get labeled a racist. 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

I don’t disagree with anything there (other than you ruining it yourself a bit with those last 5 words) but this literally has nothing to do with the post you quoted son 🙂

It certainly has. Britain is now a cesspit of violent and organised crime. It ain't because of something in the water.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Yep. Stupid. It needs a combination of understanding the root causes of why many feel the need to carry a knife in the first place and help stop people getting into gangs, as well as a strong deterrent with punishment and active police enforcement.

Absolutely. When I lived in London the police put up a knife arch at the tube station every few months and it was noticeable how many youngsters just turned round and got a train to the next station.
I don't care about any politics involved in the situation when it really is a tragedy that so many teenagers are being killed and badly injured.

 

[ASCPFC]

Agreed. It also costs money, which this and previous governments seem unwilling to spend on it.

True, I think we can all agree that there seems to be no political will to stop this. And I'm not blaming particular governments on this.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

we can all agree that there seems to be no political will to stop this.

when the State fails in its duties, you get a power vacuum. Into which steps vigilantes and organised crime.
- online paedophile hunters
- the Sicilian mafia
-the EDL