Fairford terrorist plot foiled

Is there permission to launch bombing raids from the UK? Genuine question. I'm not sure about cost and feasibility either. A couple of bombers could do some precision stuff I guess without me saying too much. I know certain planes took off before - it's in the public domain. I
t's not exactly in the public domain where they struck or if they did anything at all. I'd say far closer bases would be more feasible for the Middle East. I wouldn't rule out a stealth bomber raid as feasible but obviously very precision, expensive and for high value targets.
That would be my reading of it but I'm just guessing. So I wouldn't say the UK bases have been doing any carpet bombing or anything. I could be wrong but there won't be any proof available to us.
I will look further, my understanding is that the MOD has permitted the use of RAF Fairford for 'defensive' operations by the USA.

How bombing Iran from Fairford could possibly be defensive is beyond me.

Very heavy stuff B-52s etc. flies out from Fairford, Trump today referred to the base as 'our fort', to him its obviously Fort Apache the UK should not get in the way.

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B1 Lancers won't be used for "carpet" bombing. That's what a B52 is for, but they won't fly that near Iran because it's an easy kill. The Lancer is being used to strike Iran from Fairford.
B2 Spirit (the flying wing) is the stealth one and launches operations from Fairford
I figured that kind of thing was going on. Again, I doubt we're able to know the targets but you can work out what takes off these days.
 
In what world would a group of petrol thieves, drive from London to Gloucestershire in 3 white vans, that may well have been stolen or had false number plates ( 1 had a fictitious mobile number on the side), just to steal diesel? It doesn’t stack up. Surely London diesel thieves would target Surrey, Kent, Essex, Sussex.
This whole saga gets more bizarre by the day but I don’t hold with they were mere diesel thieves I’m afraid. Will we ever learn the truth? I doubt it, we are in the gaslighting era
This is turning into the the Gloucestershire version of ther Starmer arse on attacks
 
I will look further, my understanding is that the MOD has permitted the use of RAF Fairford for 'defensive' operations by the USA.

How bombing Iran from Fairford could possibly be defensive is beyond me.

Very heavy stuff B-52s etc. flies out from Fairford, Trump today referred to the base as 'our fort', to him its obviously Fort Apache the UK should not get in the way.

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That's because you don't understand what defence is. You think Iran is some sort of benign innocent cultural beauty spot of the world where its people are looked after. It isn't, they are our enemies. You're loyalty to them is concerning.

When we went after the V1 launch sites in WW2 was that attack to you?
 
I will look further, my understanding is that the MOD has permitted the use of RAF Fairford for 'defensive' operations by the USA.

How bombing Iran from Fairford could possibly be defensive is beyond me.

Very heavy stuff B-52s etc. flies out from Fairford, Trump today referred to the base as 'our fort', to him its obviously Fort Apache the UK should not get in the way.

😎
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That's because you don't understand what defence is. You think Iran is some sort of benign innocent cultural beauty spot of the world where its people are looked after. It isn't, they are our enemies. You're loyalty to them is concerning.

When we went after the V1 launch sites in WW2 was that attack to you?
He won’t be thinking straight this morning, as the hijacking’s failed, sad times for him
 
That's because you don't understand what defence is. You think Iran is some sort of benign innocent cultural beauty spot of the world where its people are looked after. It isn't, they are our enemies. You're loyalty to them is concerning.

When we went after the V1 launch sites in WW2 was that attack to you?
He hates Britain and he hates the West. Nothing new.
 
this whole thing makes no sense to be fair, why would you ring 999 if you were in one of the vans?
One argument I heard from a top security expert on the radio is that they saw men in balaclavas and bricked it and rang the police. Those men in balaclavas with guns are alleged to be SAS.

This seems like a dry run by Iran using people they consider as collateral damage to act suspicious and be caught. But now they know a bit more about response times by our security services etc for when they do plan an attack.
 
One argument I heard from a top security expert on the radio is that they saw men in balaclavas and bricked it and rang the police. Those men in balaclavas with guns are alleged to be SAS.

This seems like a dry run by Iran using people they consider as collateral damage to act suspicious and be caught. But now they know a bit more about response times by our security services etc for when they do plan an attack.
My wife used to work in airport security (admittedly not the same) and they are hit on an almost daily basis by people seeing what they can and can't do. For example ascertaining what bomb components they could get onto a plane. Scary stuff although the airport security was VERY good and I suspect rarely let anything through.
 
One argument I heard from a top security expert on the radio is that they saw men in balaclavas and bricked it and rang the police. Those men in balaclavas with guns are alleged to be SAS.

This seems like a dry run by Iran using people they consider as collateral damage to act suspicious and be caught. But now they know a bit more about response times by our security services etc for when they do plan an attack.
this is one of the more plausible explanations so far - but I'm amazed that the identities haven't been leaked on the internet. In the olden days a brown envelope would have been passed to the local plod in return for a fag packet with a few names scrawled on the back.
 
Counter Terrorism Police still involved as they have just arrested a man ( no other details given 🤔) in Westminster on suspicion of preparing for acts of Terrorism. Hardly petrol thieves then
 
My wife used to work in airport security (admittedly not the same) and they are hit on an almost daily basis by people seeing what they can and can't do. For example ascertaining what bomb components they could get onto a plane. Scary stuff although the airport security was VERY good and I suspect rarely let anything through.
Indeed I know at Gatwick Security were often tested by “secret shoppers” trying to catch them out. Border Force were also subjected to similar
 
Counter Terrorism Police still involved as they have just arrested a man ( no other details given 🤔) in Westminster on suspicion of preparing for acts of Terrorism. Hardly petrol thieves then


Depends.

Lets assume that Iran IS involved. What does it actually gain from it? In terms of an actual terror attack, then probably very little. They would be aware that there is very little public appetite within the UK, or much of the rest of the West for that matter, to get drawn into this all for a myriad of reasons. So why look to change that up?

But lets imagine that fancy they have a somebody leaking info from the inside? So you set up a few idiots in London. Spin them a story about schelping out to the shires where they can easily nick a bit of red diseal then drive it back down to the smoke where some dodgy types are ready to take it off their hands straight away. Even lay on the vans for them, complete with fake signage. Most crims are not that smart after all and if a couple of grand is dangled in front of their noses....

Then you allow this info to feed in the direction of the person you suspect of leaking information? All talk of a significant attack against a US airbase in the UK. Drip feed the details.

Worst case scenario for the Iranians being these bozo's drive up, attempt to nick a bit of fuel and so on. No actual harm done.

Best case scenario, we get all the drama on Sunday. The US and Brits laying on the full show, wall-to-wall media coverage as our brave secret squirrels come to the rescue, the politicians get to go all COBRA on us and so on...and its all a load of bollocks. Brits and Yanks playing the blame game with each other and those dopey bastards bailed before they know it. Everybody just scratching their heads in utter bewilderment.

And the Iranians now have the person leaking this s*** banged to rights.

A load of old bollocks? Probably. But is it any more far fetched than what is playing out?
 
Indeed I know at Gatwick Security were often tested by “secret shoppers” trying to catch them out. Border Force were also subjected to similar
There is that, coverts to test them and also false alarms on the scanners. But they also have people working for terrorist cells who test whether they can get things through that could be used to make an IED. Even stuff like kettles. If they get through they presumably feed back what they got through.
 
Depends.

Lets assume that Iran IS involved. What does it actually gain from it? In terms of an actual terror attack, then probably very little. They would be aware that there is very little public appetite within the UK, or much of the rest of the West for that matter, to get drawn into this all for a myriad of reasons. So why look to change that up?

But lets imagine that fancy they have a somebody leaking info from the inside? So you set up a few idiots in London. Spin them a story about schelping out to the shires where they can easily nick a bit of red diseal then drive it back down to the smoke where some dodgy types are ready to take it off their hands straight away. Even lay on the vans for them, complete with fake signage. Most crims are not that smart after all and if a couple of grand is dangled in front of their noses....

Then you allow this info to feed in the direction of the person you suspect of leaking information? All talk of a significant attack against a US airbase in the UK. Drip feed the details.

Worst case scenario for the Iranians being these bozo's drive up, attempt to nick a bit of fuel and so on. No actual harm done.

Best case scenario, we get all the drama on Sunday. The US and Brits laying on the full show, wall-to-wall media coverage as our brave secret squirrels come to the rescue, the politicians get to go all COBRA on us and so on...and its all a load of bollocks. Brits and Yanks playing the blame game with each other and those dopey bastards bailed before they know it. Everybody just scratching their heads in utter bewilderment.

And the Iranians now have the person leaking this s*** banged to rights.

A load of old bollocks? Probably. But is it any more far fetched than what is playing out?
Update. The man arrested is dual British/Iranian national
 
Counter Terrorism Police still involved as they have just arrested a man ( no other details given 🤔) in Westminster on suspicion of preparing for acts of Terrorism. Hardly petrol thieves then

Just reading it there....


Burnham is saying strong indications Iran were involved.....and then you have milliband doing this a week ago ...

 

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