Crystal Palace vs. Brighton match thread

[Palace Old Geezer]

Glasner sees his players in training and how they respond to the 'Glasner Way'. It would appear that he is not totally enamoured by either Uche and Esse.

Wouldn't it be good to be a fly on the wall in his office when he tells them what he thinks?

I'd love to know.

 

[Palace Old Geezer]

Should have spent more time in English Language I reckon rather than all that pesky running.

Ooooohhh.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Glasner sees his players in training and how they respond to the 'Glasner Way'. It would appear that he is not totally enamoured by either Uche and Esse.

He doesn't seem to favour maverick players unless they can adapt to his requirements and structure - wonder how he'd have got on with Wilf?

 

[Willo]

Pino looks to do most of his work outside the penalty area which means it's very unlikely he'll be in positions to score many goals.
He makes no more than a few runs a game to get on the end of things in the penalty area.
It's not his instinct.

For us to score it needs to be Mateta, Sarr, Nketiah (if selected),Munoz (rarely) or from a set piece or long throw in.

It's not necessarily a problem while we keep clean sheets and are defensively mean.
However, somebody will have to step up in Sarr's absence during Afcon.

I am advised that Eduoard has scored 5 goals in his last 6 games for Lens !

 

[beak]

Glasner sees his players in training and how they respond to the 'Glasner Way'. It would appear that he is not totally enamoured by either Uche and Esse.

Oh I don't know the right lighting a few glasses of wine and Barry White it could work. 😆

 

[Norbury Old Git]

This is very evident with Mateta, he is letting his frustration get the better of him: that wild hit and hope slash at the ball in the first half totally lacked any kind of composure, culminating in a signalled penalty miss which must have frustrated him even more. He needs to calm down a bit.

Looking at the highlights Mateta glanced to his left to see if there was any support but Brighton had taken out both Wharton and Sarr. It was not an easy shot for a right footed player so far out to the right and four Brighton players closing him down. In the rest of the match he set up Sarr and took up plenty of good positions in the box but was let down by the other players especially Kamada and Sarr who were especially wasteful.

The Palace extended highlights were a disgrace leaving out many of the “highlights” but concentrating on the VAR decision and Brighton’s wonderful play. The BBC not much better and SKY showing clips that were so short you got no context. If you watch the rerun drink plenty of strong black coffee!

 

[PatrickA]

He doesn't seem to favour maverick players unless they can adapt to his requirements and structure - wonder how he'd have got on with Wilf?

Pep is similar.
At Barcelona he fell out with Thierry Henry who would not follow instructions to 'play with chalk on his boots' i.e stay pinned to the left touchline to create space for Messi.
At City he would only select Grealish if he played a more limited role on the left hand side where he was asked to draw defenders and play simple passes.
It's about the individual sacrificing themselves for the team and meaning they have to accept not playing on occasions when tactics demand.

I think Glasner is in a similar mould.
If he praises an individual it's usually in the context of a team performance i.e the collective effort.
If JRS, Esse and possibly Uche cannot for whatever reason fit what's required they are not selected.

It's nothing new.
I recall similar debates around England with the likes of Currie, Hudson, Osgood, Le Tissier and Hoddle and why mavericks such as these weren't being selected even if the fans loved their skills.

 

[Willo]

No, but looking back I didn't make it clear that his opinion is that the intensity in matches is such that it definitely would impact performance levels.

Palace do have a squad issue I feel. Glasner prefers working with a smaller group, but it's made even smaller if there are a few players that he is reluctant to use.

As does Pep Guardiola.

Pep Guardiola: Manchester City manager says he will quit club if squad size not reduced

Pep Guardiola says he will quit as Manchester City manager unless he is given a smaller squad next season.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Pep is similar.
At Barcelona he fell out with Thierry Henry who would not follow instructions to 'play with chalk on his boots' i.e stay pinned to the left touchline to create space for Messi.
At City he would only select Grealish if he played a more limited role on the left hand side where he was asked to draw defenders and play simple passes.
It's about the individual sacrificing themselves for the team and meaning they have to accept not playing on occasions when tactics demand.

I think Glasner is in a similar mould.
If he praises an individual it's usually in the context of a team performance i.e the collective effort.
If JRS, Esse and possibly Uche cannot for whatever reason fit what's required they are not selected.

It's nothing new.
I recall similar debates around England with the likes of Currie, Hudson, Osgood, Le Tissier and Hoddle and why mavericks such as these weren't being selected even if the fans loved their skills.

But then the obvious question is 'why did we sign them?'

If these are such non-negotiables for Glasner, surely it has to be more front of mind in our recruitment - Uche in particular being a loan, so someone you're expecting to be able to contribute right now.

 

[ASCPFC]

But then the obvious question is 'why did we sign them?'

If these are such non-negotiables for Glasner, surely it has to be more front of mind in our recruitment - Uche in particular being a loan, so someone you're expecting to be able to contribute right now.

This is all linked to Glasner not working with a Director of Football. And the sudden departure of Freedman is linked to that too. Glasner states that if players are bought that don't suit him, he won't play them. He clearly will not listen to a Director of Football if he only plays one system.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

This is all linked to Glasner not working with a Director of Football. And the sudden departure of Freedman is linked to that too. Glasner states that if players are bought that don't suit him, he won't play them. He clearly will not listen to a Director of Football if he only plays one system.

I don't think that we sign players without Glasner's input, pre or post Dougie.

Uche especially has only recently been signed, post Freedman - Glasner has clearly had some input in that signing, and yet doesn't seem to fancy him even for a 20 minute cameo.

 

[mars]

Will Hughes would ALWAYS be in my starting eleven.
We invariably play better with him in the side preferably teamed with Wharton in the middle.

 

[ASCPFC]

I don't think that we sign players without Glasner's input, pre or post Dougie.

Uche especially has only recently been signed, post Freedman - Glasner has clearly had some input in that signing, and yet doesn't seem to fancy him even for a 20 minute cameo.

I'm not sure we ask for Glasner's input. I can't imagine he said he wanted Uche, then just leaves him out. Glasner maybe gave his input on a couple. I heard he asked for Lacroix and Munoz - which makes him look great. Presumably Kamada. It's hard for us to know. He openly slated the club's transfer policy several times now. No doubt there are meetings. What happens we don't know.
One thing we can be sure of is Glasner's previous record of time spent at clubs. I also don't think he'll stay here. Just my opinion. We need to plan for that, again in my opinion. He seems to fall out with people if he doesn't like how things are. I heard Glasner was not really interested in Freedman's input. In fact, I heard Freedman had a word about tactical inflexibility and Glasner was not interested. Again, I have no idea if it's true.

 

[dreamwaverider]

A decent point - I thought we looked dead on our feet in the last 20 minutes, particularly going forward.

I thought Mitchell, Canvot and Richards were the standouts - incredibly solid against a dangerous Brighton side.

He's obviously a world-class manager, but I am finding Glasner's unwillingness to use the squad very frustrating - we can't survive this season with him only trusting 13 or 14 players with meaningful minutes.

Both Uche and Esse have been signed presumably with a green light from Glasner, so I really struggle to understand how he doesn't rate them enough for even 20/30 minute cameos when the starters are flagging.

From what I've seen so far, I have to say I agree with Glasner's lack of use of either to date.

 

[dreamwaverider]

I am advised that Eduoard has scored 5 goals in his last 6 games for Lens !

Good for him. Please dont suggest we get him back!!

 

[CPFCSaturn]

I'm not sure we ask for Glasner's input. I can't imagine he said he wanted Uche, then just leaves him out. Glasner maybe gave his input on a couple. I heard he asked for Lacroix and Munoz - which makes him look great. Presumably Kamada. It's hard for us to know. He openly slated the club's transfer policy several times now. No doubt there are meetings. What happens we don't know.
One thing we can be sure of is Glasner's previous record of time spent at clubs. I also don't think he'll stay here. Just my opinion. We need to plan for that, again in my opinion. He seems to fall out with people if he doesn't like how things are. I heard Glasner was not really interested in Freedman's input. In fact, I heard Freedman had a word about tactical inflexibility and Glasner was not interested. Again, I have no idea if it's true.

Everything I've seen suggests Glasner has a pretty big voice in our recruitment, certainly in terms of identifying targets - it seems like the club then have to go and try and get the deal done, but he seems very involved in identifying who and what we need.

I can't imagine the club just drops someone like Uche in on loan without asking the manager if it would be useful.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

From what I've seen so far, I have to say I agree with Glasner's lack of use of either to date.

I don't think either are amazing, but when the alternative to using them is to run Mateta & Sarr into the ground 3 times a week, I can't say I agree with it.

I think Sosa is a major downgrade on Mitchell, but he's functional, and it's allowed us to rest Mitchell in a handful of fixtures already - the upside isn't necessarily in Sosa's performances himself, but in not completely exhausting the first choice option.

 

[ASCPFC]

Everything I've seen suggests Glasner has a pretty big voice in our recruitment, certainly in terms of identifying targets - it seems like the club then have to go and try and get the deal done, but he seems very involved in identifying who and what we need.

I can't imagine the club just drops someone like Uche in on loan without asking the manager if it would be useful.

I would think if you've been a Palace fan long enough - it's not a massive stretch of the imagination. And may somewhat explain our restructure at the top. Parish doing everything on his own.
Coming back to Dougie going - it's a balance of now and in the future. The issue is, Glasner wants now. The club needs a balance of both.
For instance, sign Uche for twenty million. Play him, make him more valuable. But Glasner won't - although it could change.
As a friend of mine pointed out. Glasner is all well and good but when he goes at the end of the season then the club still exists.

 

[RednBlue Eagle]

I would think if you've been a Palace fan long enough - it's not a massive stretch of the imagination. And may somewhat explain our restructure at the top. Parish doing everything on his own.
Coming back to Dougie going - it's a balance of now and in the future. The issue is, Glasner wants now. The club needs a balance of both.
For instance, sign Uche for twenty million. Play him, make him more valuable. But Glasner won't - although it could change.
As a friend of mine pointed out. Glasner is all well and good but when he goes at the end of the season then the club still exists.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

I would think if you've been a Palace fan long enough - it's not a massive stretch of the imagination. And may somewhat explain our restructure at the top. Parish doing everything on his own.
Coming back to Dougie going - it's a balance of now and in the future. The issue is, Glasner wants now. The club needs a balance of both.
For instance, sign Uche for twenty million. Play him, make him more valuable. But Glasner won't - although it could change.
As a friend of mine pointed out. Glasner is all well and good but when he goes at the end of the season then the club still exists.

Ok but that doesn't make it true - there's plenty out there to suggest Glasner is very involved in these discussions.

Parish is certainly not doing everything on his own in terms of player recruitment - I'd imagine he signs off the finances on a deal, but we will have an entire recruitment team involved in identifying targets and opportunities, and I'm very confident Glasner is involved in that process, far more so than Parish.

The signings of Lacroix and Kamada as ex-Glasner players is surely the proof of that.