Censorship and Social Media

[Teddy Eagle]

On a personal level he was an idiot. But that’s true of him in many areas. He did though, or was forced to, follow public health advice and not just let the virus rip, which seemed to be his instinct.

An idiot in whom we we were supposed to put our trust. Not just on Covid but everything for which his government made decisions.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

An idiot in whom we we were supposed to put our trust. Not just on Covid but everything for which his government made decisions.

Not me. I saw through him well before he conned his way into No 10 with blatant populist rhetoric. That so many fell for it ought to be a hard lesson learned but somehow I doubt it has. Jam tomorrow sells.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Not me. I saw through him well before he conned his way into No 10 with blatant populist rhetoric. That so many fell for it ought to be a hard lesson learned but somehow I doubt it has. Jam tomorrow sells.

So he wasn't there to take decisions for us. Got it.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

So he wasn't there to take decisions for us. Got it.

Ministers are often just the public face. Government determines the overall strategy but the detail is prepared by civil servants.

In his case we should all be grateful that it was the scientists who drove the agenda and not the politicians. Especially Johnson. The government did not have a strategy that was able to answer Covid. They needed the cool heads to calmly analyse the situation, prepare worst case scenarios and then put measures into place to mitigate them.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Ministers are often just the public face. Government determines the overall strategy but the detail is prepared by civil servants.

In his case we should all be grateful that it was the scientists who drove the agenda and not the politicians. Especially Johnson. The government did not have a strategy that was able to answer Covid. They needed the cool heads to calmly analyse the situation, prepare worst case scenarios and then put measures into place to mitigate them.

So who are we voting for to take decisions about things other than Covid?

 

[Spiderman]

A couple of stories being spun in the right wing press and the usual subjects go off on another crusade.

Surely if you, a pub landlord, or anyone else, overheard people planning a crime of any sort, but especially terrorism or child abuse, then you would want them to report it?

What is suggested here isn’t that but it’s no different to the responsibilities that every employer has. Ensuring that others don’t harass or abuse staff is quite normal. You see signs up warning this won’t be tolerated in many settings. What’s so different about a pub? It won’t restrict genuine banter, however crude or political it might be, of that I am certain.

It’s only the right wing press who want you to get angry. Again.

It will if a member of staff hears something that offends or causes them distress. Could be normal pub “banter”.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It will if a member of staff hears something that offends or causes them distress. Could be normal pub “banter”.

CAMRA estimates 1200 pubs closed in 2024. Are the ones remaining going to bar those who can still afford to go to them? There are acceptable levels of behaviour in most pubs and in those were there aren't there's more chance of being beaten to a pulp than of being offended by a conversation.
Landlords will do what they've always done and have a word with anyone going too far.

 

[Eagleman13]

CAMRA estimates 1200 pubs closed in 2024. Are the ones remaining going to bar those who can still afford to go to them? There are acceptable levels of behaviour in most pubs and in those were there aren't there's more chance of being beaten to a pulp than of being offended by a conversation.
Landlords will do what they've always done and have a word with anyone going too far.

Another Selhurst pub has been sold to a property company, closes midnight on the 26th Jan. Then Danny's got 2 days to leave. the pub . . . Two Brewers. Nice one Shepherd Neame.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

It's not just censorship on Social media. It's people going to jail for expressing 'wrong' opinions.
Fact-checkers. My @r5e.
This is regulation of free-speech, and the loss of a crucial liberty.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Winston Smith works in the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth, where his job is to rewrite historical documents so they match the constantly changing current party line. This involves revising newspaper articles and doctoring photographs—mostly to remove "unpersons", people who have fallen afoul of the party

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It will if a member of staff hears something that offends or causes them distress. Could be normal pub “banter”.

No. The bar will be much higher than that.

Anyone taken on to work in a pub must expect to hear bad language and worse attitudes but keep their own opinions to themselves.

It will surely be things much more specific than that. Like homophobic comments in front of gay people, or misogynistic comments in front of women. Things that are banned already.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

CAMRA estimates 1200 pubs closed in 2024. Are the ones remaining going to bar those who can still afford to go to them? There are acceptable levels of behaviour in most pubs and in those were there aren't there's more chance of being beaten to a pulp than of being offended by a conversation.
Landlords will do what they've always done and have a word with anyone going too far.

That’s right.

This is only confirming what is standard practice and offering reassurance to some. Sit in a corner, keep your conversations private and you can say whatever you like.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It's not just censorship on Social media. It's people going to jail for expressing 'wrong' opinions.
Fact-checkers. My @r5e.
This is regulation of free-speech, and the loss of a crucial liberty.

That’s simply untrue.

People are not going to jail just for expressing an opinion.

They go because of their incitement of others to violence or breaking the law in other ways.

You can say whatever you like in private but when you go public with it there are restrictions which recognise the rights of others. It’s nothing new. Libel and slander have long been illegal.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Winston Smith works in the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth, where his job is to rewrite historical documents so they match the constantly changing current party line. This involves revising newspaper articles and doctoring photographs—mostly to remove "unpersons", people who have fallen afoul of the party

The Soviets certainly did a bit of that.

 

[eaglesdare]

Sometimes I wish I never took that red pill back in 2020. Life was so much simpler and everything was censored so we never heard of anything.

 

[DanH]

Sometimes I wish I never took that red pill back in 2020. Life was so much simpler and everything was censored so we never heard of anything.

Absolutely wild to me when you lot readily admit when you've been brainwashed by the utter b*llocks (sorry, 'research') that you read and watch on the internet.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Absolutely wild to me when you lot readily admit when you've been brainwashed by the utter b*llocks (sorry, 'research') that you read and watch on the internet.

Read Biden’s farewell speech. He agrees.

 

[eaglesdare]

Absolutely wild to me when you lot readily admit when you've been brainwashed by the utter b*llocks (sorry, 'research') that you read and watch on the internet.

Arnt we all "brainwashed" in one way or another? 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[cryrst]

Absolutely wild to me when you lot readily admit when you've been brainwashed by the utter b*llocks (sorry, 'research') that you read and watch on the internet.

Another holiday danh.
Blimey your making wicker seem like he was a recluse 😂

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Arnt we all "brainwashed" in one way or another? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Some of us are able to think for ourselves and not rely on others. Others may present opinions but the ability to evaluate them objectively is what really counts.