Censorship and Social Media

[dreamwaverider]

It’s been a passion of mine for some time that we need to ban religion from all schools and public life. Teach about religion but not teach a religion or allow one to manage a school. Schools need to promote understanding and respect within every community.

Ahhh. The Utopian woke dream.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

It’s been a passion of mine for some time that we need to ban religion from all schools and public life.

the French have been trying that for at least a hundred years. However the pushback has been phenomenal.

French PM backs school head who faced death threats after Muslim veil row

Gabriel Attal says state will file a complaint against student over accusation against principal who had to resign for his safety

www.theguardian.com

Northern Ireland would have greatly benefited from secular-only schools from at least a hundred years ago.

now getting back to the OP, Censorship & freedom of speech. What Palace player got into trouble for writing Jesus onto his rainbow armband ?

 

[ASCPFC]

I suspect there might be a huge wind up going on. Not just in her school but generally.

It feels like that.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Too late for that now Islam has been allowed and effectively encouraged to grow and be practiced every bl00dy where. Baggage check in at Gatwick. Need a place to pray facing East? Sure, he’s a room for you. Borough of Newham. High unemployment. I wonder why. Drove through the Arab area of London near Edgware Road this week. Loads of women in Burkas. Shouldn’t be surprised. They’re in the south of the Croydon borough as well.

The country is fvcked. It’s far too late to start laying down the law on religion.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

And replace it with the left/liberal religious teaching no doubt.

No, just about the role religion has played historically and how it continues to be important for some people. Teaching respect and tolerance to all has nothing political about it.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

the French have been trying that for at least a hundred years. However the pushback has been phenomenal.

French PM backs school head who faced death threats after Muslim veil row

Gabriel Attal says state will file a complaint against student over accusation against principal who had to resign for his safety

www.theguardian.com

Northern Ireland would have greatly benefited from secular-only schools from at least a hundred years ago.

now getting back to the OP, Censorship & freedom of speech. What Palace player got into trouble for writing Jesus onto his rainbow armband ?

We can learn from the French experience but the underlying principle is sound.

Religious beliefs that teach love and acceptance are fine. People can work together for the benefit of all. So many don’t though. They claim an exclusive access to the truth.

 

[georgenorman]

No, just about the role religion has played historically and how it continues to be important for some people. Teaching respect and tolerance to all has nothing political about it.

We should teach kids to be respectful and tolerant of anything?

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Katharine Birbalsingh has banned Muslim prayers in her successful Michaela School and received bomb and death threats as expected.

She’s a brave woman and doesn’t give a sh1t. She makes all her kids sing the national anthem in her school in Wembley, of course an Asian and black area of Brent. But this is a successful, high attaining school. It would be a different outcome in a school and area of low attainment.

Inside 'Britain's strictest school' where pupils sing the national anthem and can't sit with their friends at lunch

Children are under constant supervision at the Michaela Community School

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Too late for that now Islam has been allowed and effectively encouraged to grow and be practiced every bl00dy where. Baggage check in at Gatwick. Need a place to pray facing East? Sure, he’s a room for you. Borough of Newham. High unemployment. I wonder why. Drove through the Arab area of London near Edgware Road this week. Loads of women in Burkas. Shouldn’t be surprised. They’re in the south of the Croydon borough as well.

The country is fvcked. It’s far too late to start laying down the law on religion.

It’s never too late to expect that everyone who chooses to live here does so on our terms. That doesn’t mean they must abandon their religion. It just means that everyone shows respect and tolerance.

If we expect every young citizen to be taught that then that’s what they should be taught.

Such a move would command widespread support across the political divides and isolate the extremes.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

We should teach kids to be respectful and tolerant of anything?

No, of course not. You cannot respect intolerance.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

It’s never too late to expect that everyone who chooses to live here does so on our terms. That doesn’t mean they must abandon their religion. It just means that everyone shows respect and tolerance.

If we expect every young citizen to be taught that then that’s what they should be taught.

Such a move would command widespread support across the political divides and isolate the extremes.

No chance in high Muslim areas. You’ll be in hiding before half term.

Correction: before the first Saturday of Autumn term.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

No chance in high Muslim areas. You’ll be in hiding before half term.

Taking the religious leaders with us in a slowly, slowly way is what would be needed.

I am neither blind to the challenges nor without hope it can be done. It needs the will of the majority behind it, stated in an unequivocal way.

 

[cryrst]

Taking the religious leaders with us in a slowly, slowly way is what would be needed.

I am neither blind to the challenges nor without hope it can be done. It needs the will of the majority behind it, stated in an unequivocal way.

When many Muslims are living life from a religious book, what you think should happen isn’t possible.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Taking the religious leaders with us in a slowly, slowly way is what would be needed.

I am neither blind to the challenges nor without hope it can be done. It needs the will of the majority behind it, stated in an unequivocal way.

He says looking out of the window at the fields of Cornwall.

 

[georgenorman]

No, of course not. You cannot respect intolerance.

So we should teach kids to be respectful and tolerant of anything except intolerance?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

He says looking out of the window at the fields of Cornwall.

Not at all. I say it by engaging my brain and never giving up a belief in the human spirit.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

When many Muslims are living life from a religious book, what you think should happen isn’t possible.

You are a defeatist.

It’s hard and would see many setbacks but it can be done.

Teaching all our children to think for themselves is the first step.

And they are our children.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

So we should teach kids to be respectful and tolerant of anything except intolerance?

No. What I actually said was that we need to teach them tolerance and respect. That doesn’t imply that whatever others do deserve it. Only that if it does then the kids must know how to respect and tolerate it, turning their backs on religious dogma and opening their hearts and minds.

 

[georgenorman]

No. What I actually said was that we need to teach them tolerance and respect. That doesn’t imply that whatever others do deserve it. Only that if it does then the kids must know how to respect and tolerate it, turning their backs on religious dogma and opening their hearts and minds.

What you actually said was: "Teaching respect and tolerance to all has nothing political about it." As usual, it is pie in the sky nonsense.

 

[cryrst]

You are a defeatist.

It’s hard and would see many setbacks but it can be done.

Teaching all our children to think for themselves is the first step.

And they are our children.

And when any criticism of the way these people live within their belief is smashed by the law there is no chance. You are living in a strange head place if you really believe this can happen.