Ashes cricket

[chris123]

The lack of proper preparation is very weird, isn't it? Other performance-based professions use simulation in the way you suggest to the nth degree. Tells me that the upper echelons of management are either incompetent or have no interest in the future of test cricket. Either way it's an insult to the players on both sides, Australian hosts, and the fans. As for poor Ollie Pope, he's got what golfers call the Yips...uncontrollable twitching of the right hand. Not a pretty sight. Time to concentrate on the football I feel!aaa

They used to tour for four months and play State sides. I don't mind being beaten by the better side so long as we leave nothing in terms of preparation and performance. We've got stacks of analysts providing real time data, yet we still can't bowl straight, hold catches and Pope playing shots like yesterday. Our leadership seems incapable of playing test cricket.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The lack of proper preparation is very weird, isn't it? Other performance-based professions use simulation in the way you suggest to the nth degree. Tells me that the upper echelons of management are either incompetent or have no interest in the future of test cricket. Either way it's an insult to the players on both sides, Australian hosts, and the fans. As for poor Ollie Pope, he's got what golfers call the Yips...uncontrollable twitching of the right hand. Not a pretty sight. Time to concentrate on the football I feel!

The ECB are all about maximising money from the customers and success on the field is secondary.

Obviously they care, but the money is the most important. In my opinion it's been the main problem in English cricket since the Sky money came in.....which is a poisoned chalice because it denies promoting the game properly to the masses.

Football can do that.....I'm not sure a sport like Cricket can.....Cricket requires numbers....and it's relying far too much on people like me, Gen Xs and boomers raised on past glories.....Well, relative glories at least.

It's all about maximising money and squeezing the paying customer.

It shows from the number of twenty twenty cricket they have to the size of wages for players who.....in relation to their foreign counterparts.....just don't justify them.

Well, watching England at both home and away has been my obsession for 40 years and even though I'm fortunate enough to afford to watch them on Sky this has been the first time I've refused to do it......I don't like doing it.....I can take the losing, but I'm sick of the management of our system that recreates this humiliation everytime.

If the schedule means you can't acclimatise the team over there with enough time and matches then have the means to simulate over here and take it ultra seriously.

In the old days competing mattered more than the money.

If we don't have enough youngsters playing the game then ditch Sky and go with the BBC......Put the game before the size of your wage packet.

If you don't it's a slow death anyway.....but just one that you made more money out of while pulling up the ladder for those that come after......A story we see so much today.

 

[Phil H]

The ECB are all about maximising money from the customers and success on the field is secondary.

Obviously they care, but the money is the most important. In my opinion it's been the main problem in English cricket since the Sky money came in.....which is a poisoned chalice because it denies promoting the game properly to the masses.

Football can do that.....I'm not sure a sport like Cricket can.....Cricket requires numbers....and it's relying far too much on people like me, Gen Xs and boomers raised on past glories.....Well, relative glories at least.

It's all about maximising money and squeezing the paying customer.

It shows from the number of twenty twenty cricket they have to the size of wages for players who.....in relation to their foreign counterparts.....just don't justify them.

Well, watching England at both home and away has been my obsession for 40 years and even though I'm fortunate enough to afford to watch them on Sky this has been the first time I've refused to do it......I don't like doing it.....I can take the losing, but I'm sick of the management of our system that recreates this humiliation everytime.

If the schedule means you can't acclimatise the team over there with enough time and matches then have the means to simulate over here and take it ultra seriously.

In the old days competing mattered more than the money.

If we don't have enough youngsters playing the game then ditch Sky and go with the BBC......Put the game before the size of your wage packet.

If you don't it's a slow death anyway.....but just one that you made more money out of while pulling up the ladder for those that come after......A story we see so much today.

I was shocked and dismayed when the first thing that happened after the iconic 2005 Ashes (which the whole country engaged in, even my mother who knows nothing about cricket had an opinion) was to put cricket on Sky and take it away from the masses. I know that paying for sport via subscription is a whole other debating topic but it felt like selling the family silver.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I was shocked and dismayed when the first thing that happened after the iconic 2005 Ashes (which the whole country engaged in, even my mother who knows nothing about cricket had an opinion) was to put cricket on Sky and take it away from the masses. I know that paying for sport via subscription is a whole other debating topic but it felt like selling the family silver.

Yep essentially you're right,

(Grok)

The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) awarded exclusive live TV rights for England's home international cricket (including Tests) to Sky Sports in a four-year deal worth around £220 million, announced in late 2004—before the 2005 Ashes series began. This deal took effect from 2006 onward, meaning the iconic 2005 Ashes (won by England 2-1) was the last home Test series broadcast live on free-to-air terrestrial TV (Channel 4).

TV audiences for home Tests plummeted (from peaks of 8+ million in 2005 to often under 1 million on Sky), and there's evidence of falling junior participation in the years that followed.

maximising money before what's best for the game - pulling the ladder up.