Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

[becky]

Yes, if we win.

Lose and this thread will be full of bile directed at UEFA - 300 pages should be easily achievable !

Not if I lock the post it won't 😁

 

[Part Time James]

Not if I lock the post it won't 😁

This is the least amount of power anyone has ever got drunk on 😉

 

[PalaceDaz]

This is been posted online.
Shows clearly we lied and f***ed up.

 

[Nicholas91]

This is been posted online.
Shows clearly we lied and f***ed up.

I'm not sure that means what you think it means, or proves anything.

 

[Common Sense Club]

This is been posted online.
Shows clearly we lied and f***ed up.

I know what you are trying to say (and this is probably UEFA’s starting point) and is common UK legal practice to show who has more than or 25% shareholding for the purposes of differentiating from those that hold only 2% for example. That’s why, if you hold shares in a quoted company, such as Shell or BP, that you are not mentioned. The articles and Associations and/legal company minutes will further explain what control which director/shareholder has. But this isn’t necessarily held in the public domain.

 

[chris123]

I'm not sure that means what you think it means, or proves anything.

That's a companies house filing based on his shareholding at the time and our whole reasoning has been the actual control/influence was not the same as discussed at length above

 

[lefty27]

This is been posted online.
Shows clearly we lied and f***ed up.

Sorry to disappoint forest Daz but that means nothing. I’m a company director with 50% and a person of significant control. I don’t though have decisive control, if I did I’d fire the other shareholder who’s f***ing useless. That said it shows nothing we don’t know, he personally not eagle group owned 43% of palace hold co and had 25% voting rights.

 

[pssguy]

This is been posted online.
Shows clearly we lied and f***ed up.

Most interesting thing is that it names his year and month of birth but not the day. And it looks wrong so probably a fake
If anyone wants to send him a birthday card, Wikipedia has it as 30 Sptember 1965

 

[becky]

That's the Return filed for Palaceholdco UK Ltd - he may well have significant control of that company, but how many shares does that Company hold in Palace? Is it part of the Eagle Holding Group? Does it actually have any significance in the case in Question even?

 

[Goalpost1]

Sorry to disappoint forest Daz but that means nothing. I’m a company director with 50% and a person of significant control. I don’t though have decisive control, if I did I’d fire the other shareholder who’s f***ing useless. That said it shows nothing we don’t know, he personally not eagle group owned 43% of palace hold co and had 25% voting rights.

Sorry, thought I was doing an ok job 😉

 

[Eagleman13]

Assuming we stay in the Conference League, Midtyland are 2-0 up away to Fredrikstad in the 3rd round qualifying 1st leg Europa League.

 

[Common Sense Club]

Assuming we stay in the Conference League, Midtyland are 2-0 up away to Fredrikstad in the 3rd round qualifying 1st leg Europa League.

After Monday, Notts Forest May fancy their chances against them.

 

[cryrst]

Sorry, thought I was doing an ok job 😉

I am Spartacus 😳

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

While we wait for any news from tomorrow’s hearing, like whether Steve Parish has been seen smiling, take a trawl through some of the past CAS decisions. They are long and tedious, with lots of legalese but they are also quite illuminating in the way they are prepared to criticise rules made by regulatory bodies and apply common sense principles to whether justice has been served.

I have read a couple and feel a little more confident as a result.

https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Bulletin_TAS_2025-1.pdf

 

[Canterbury Palace]

How Crystal Palace plan to beat UEFA in Europa League battle

Palace lawyers confident of overturning demotion to Conference League as Eagles face date with destiny at the Court of Arbitration for Sport

www.standard.co.uk

 

[Jim_Cannon]

That's the Return filed for Palaceholdco UK Ltd - he may well have significant control of that company, but how many shares does that Company hold in Palace? Is it part of the Eagle Holding Group? Does it actually have any significance in the case in Question even?

Spot on. It’s about asking the right questions not jumping to conclusions

 

[mtp1958]

well the fleet have arrived all guns at the ready the first salvo tobe fired , go get them boys sink the UEFA Bismarck
King Parish V: What’s he that wishes so?
My cousin Holmesdale? No, my fair cousin:
If we are mark’d to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God’s will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires:
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England:
God’s peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more, methinks, would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Holmesdale , through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is called the feast of Palace:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crystal Palace.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Palace:’
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say ‘These wounds I had on Palaces day.’
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember’d.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crystal Palace shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember’d;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England and south London now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crystal Palace day.

 

[Badger11]

well the fleet have arrived all guns at the ready the first salvo tobe fired , go get them boys sink the UEFA Bismarck
King Parish V: What’s he that wishes so?
My cousin Holmesdale? No, my fair cousin:
If we are mark’d to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God’s will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires:
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England:
God’s peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more, methinks, would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Holmesdale , through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is called the feast of Palace:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crystal Palace.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Palace:’
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say ‘These wounds I had on Palaces day.’
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember’d.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crystal Palace shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember’d;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England and south London now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crystal Palace day.

Very good. I hope we get the same result.

 

[Steveoxon]

well the fleet have arrived all guns at the ready the first salvo tobe fired , go get them boys sink the UEFA Bismarck
King Parish V: What’s he that wishes so?
My cousin Holmesdale? No, my fair cousin:
If we are mark’d to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God’s will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires:
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England:
God’s peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more, methinks, would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Holmesdale , through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is called the feast of Palace:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crystal Palace.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Palace:’
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say ‘These wounds I had on Palaces day.’
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember’d.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crystal Palace shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember’d;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England and south London now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crystal Palace day.

If we win, perhaps we could get Kenneth Branagh to recite it on the pitch before the Forest game.

 

[mtp1958]

If we win, perhaps we could get Kenneth Branagh to recite it on the pitch before the Forest game.

yeah just something I wrote overnight , hope no one copys and changes some of the words😗😗😗