I’m not sure they had better cases tbhApparently CAS have already laughed at two clubs with better cases than us, so I think we’d better get used to the thought of conference football
I’m not sure they had better cases tbhApparently CAS have already laughed at two clubs with better cases than us, so I think we’d better get used to the thought of conference football
I reckon decent Counsel could drive a bus through the flaws in UEFA’s rules and regulations and their implementation of same, but whether this sort of level of legal representation is allowed at CAS I’m not sure. I hope it is and we do.Textor owns just 51% of Eagle Football holdings. Eagle Football holdings did own 43% of Palace's shares and had 25% voting rights.
This basically means (in the event that Eagle Football's directors disagreed with him) he only really controlled around 22% of Palace's shares and only really had 12.5% voting rights.
This is being pedantic I know as if you own 51% of a company you still really maintain control. But... This could still be presented to CAS in a demonstration of how ridiculous UEFA are being.
It would be exciting if that's what we'd have originally got. I'd have been ecstatic with Conf Leag. But you've got to be honest it is a huge downgrade from Europa League and now to me just feels disappointing and I'm nowhere near as excited for Europe as I should be.My stance is that we're getting European football so happy days. Does that mean I don't want us to appeal? Does it mean I don't feel robbed? Does it mean that I prefer this outcome? Well, funnily enough people seem to have inferred those things from my previous posts, but all I mean is that the minimum now is more palatable (for me) than I feared. I do respect those that think it's such an inferior tournament that it becomes a dangerous distraction from our league season, but for me it's still quite exciting.
No we wouldn't. If we dont have to qualify as cup champions for the EL we certainly wont for the Conference.Hearing that if we end up in the conference league then we would need to qualify for the league stages!!
I heard we enter into a qualifying round, but it might not be correct.No we wouldn't. If we dont have to qualify as cup champions for the EL we certainly wont for the Conference.
Villa have to qualify I think. We dont.
That's true, over 2 legs. And that proved Chelsea's toughest tie of the competition last seasonHearing that if we end up in the conference league then we would need to qualify for the league stages!!
Fair enough if true.That's true, over 2 legs. And that proved Chelsea's toughest tie of the competition last season
And I didn’t appreciate Jim White’s remarks about the protest march. I can just see White and Jordan off air talking about ‘peasants with pitch forks outside the Palace gates’!
He's bitter because he feels he missed the PL gravy train by a couple of years, in truth he's just a poor man's Alan Sugar 🤣Jordan seemed initially supportive but the mask has slipped and now his hatred of Parish is seeping through.
I always liked SJ and think he's good on air but the anti-Parish grudge is pathetic. When SJ was in charge he made enemies all over the place and our descent into near financial ruin, again, was down to him.
Parish has been the best owner in our history and it's just jealousy at this point.
Don't disagree with any of that, or anyone else that's said it, but I am choosing that my glass is half full so to speak.It would be exciting if that's what we'd have originally got. I'd have been ecstatic with Conf Leag. But you've got to be honest it is a huge downgrade from Europa League and now to me just feels disappointing and I'm nowhere near as excited for Europe as I should be.
No, we are the only English team in any UEFA competition, that has to qualify. In my opinion, it is the biggest disadvantage of the Europa conference league and it would be typical Palace for us not to qualify!Fair enough if true.
Surprised though as we go straight in to the League format if we are in the EL whereas Villa have to qualify.
I think we do as we are taking Forests placeNo we wouldn't. If we dont have to qualify as cup champions for the EL we certainly wont for the Conference.
Villa have to qualify I think. We dont.
Yes you do. No teams go straight into the conference league stage. Palace would enter at latest possible point the play off stageNo we wouldn't. If we dont have to qualify as cup champions for the EL we certainly wont for the Conference.
Villa have to qualify I think. We dont.
Time for Holding to shine.Yes you do. No teams go straight into the conference league stage. Palace would enter at latest possible point the play off stage
It is right, both those clubs have argued the deadline is invalid and CAS have thrown them out, so unless we have something extra ordinary as evidence which apparently we can’t have otherwise uefa wouldn’t have taken this action in the first place, we’re heading the same wayThats not right. We have a better case than those other clubs whose families run both clubs by the way but I do see what you are saying. Its not a certainty that CAS will rule in our favour.
Though I still believe they will
Not quite the worst.
1. Glasner gets the hump and leaves.
2. Eze, Guehi, Munoz & Mateta are sold.
3. The squad is knackered from travelling/playing in a third tier European competition.
4. Johnson turns out to be worse than Textor.
I understand your sentiment but as the consensus is that our chances with the CAS are pretty slim, principally because we were warned by both UEFA and the PL about the changes but did nothing so consequently we are technically in the wrong and also apparently Parish made a faux pas when he went to Switzerland I think if we do appeal we will be flogging the proverbial dead horse. No, it's not fair but as underdogs we don't have the muscle to challenge the decision, isn't it best to take the 'punishment' and move on? The Conference is better than no Europe at all. Defeatist? Yes but we are technically at least in the wrong.No I completely disagree. This is what UEFA want us to do. I think we should make as much noise over this as possible while making it clear any of the 'big boys' getting into Europe in the future that have broken even the minutest rule and we'll sue.
UEFA need to be made aware that little old Crystal Palace aint going to be pushed around without a fight.
If you dont stand up to them they wont think twice about treating us like dirt in the future.
That is a matter of opinion and would be the basis of our appeal.I understand your sentiment but as the consensus is that our chances with the CAS are pretty slim, principally because we were warned by both UEFA and the PL about the changes but did nothing so consequently we are technically in the wrong and also apparently Parish made a faux pas when he went to Switzerland I think if we do appeal we will be flogging the proverbial dead horse. No, it's not fair but as underdogs we don't have the muscle to challenge the decision, isn't it best to take the 'punishment' and move on? The Conference is better than no Europe at all. Defeatist? Yes but we are technically at least in the wrong.
...because the (domestic) appeal succeeded so it was never a problem.That is a matter of opinion and would be the basis of our appeal.
In any case, Lyon were allowed to retrospectively fix their problems, so why weren't we?