Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

ex hibitionist said:
Borson said correctly that the idea of Textor being a 100% silent partner is nonsense - there was common share ownership on March 1, compliance instructions were sent by UEFA and the FA well in advance and we simply did not comply. We were sadly not expectant enough of European qualification to get our house in order in time, you can complain about the hoops but if you don't jump through them in time you lose - simples. We can only plea that we thought we were compliant (but weren't) and became compliant once we were told what steps needed to be taken - it's basically a plea for clemency which is unlikely to succeed. It maybe that Textor selling his shares has actually backfired when it should have helped us, but that logic seemingly has no effect legally. I'm starting to accept the Conference League situation, and it may work in our favour, though I did fancy an away day at one of the more glamourous clubs than the Athletico Arsendofbeyonds we will be going to.
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Where has anyone said Textor was a 100% silent partner? He was a 25% partner and the threshold within UEFA is 30%. UEFA are ignoring our company set up, or should I say Marinakis has probably paid them to ignore our set up.

Are you able to say what the compliance instructions were? Because if they said you must have less than 30% control of a club ie their own threshold then we would argue he did have less than 30%.
 
My Forest mate has just told me a number of Forest fans have booked flights and hotels in Germany for the conference league final, and now theyre concerned they're being bumped up to the Europa League.
Obviously we hope they can keep their bookings 😀
 
Eaglecoops said:
Where has anyone said Textor was a 100% silent partner? He was a 25% partner and the threshold within UEFA is 30%. UEFA are ignoring our company set up, or should I say Marinakis has probably paid them to ignore our set up.

Are you able to say what the compliance instructions were? Because if they said you must have less than 30% control of a club ie their own threshold then we would argue he did have less than 30%.
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I think the ruling states there can be NO possession of shares between two clubs. I'm not supporting the decision, the article above shows what a joke the blind trust loophole is and that it does not prevent what it tries to prevent, our lawyers could cite the Red Bull and Man U/Lausanne examples but it most surely won't work. Those clubs took the steps required in time because they expected to be in Europe, we didn't take those steps in time because we didn't expect to be in Europe. I hope as much as anyone that our appeal is successful, but in my brief meetings with the legal world I think they are at least 90% likely to just go with the letter of the law. UEFA simply see Textor quite rationally as having been a major influence at the club rather than having no influence at all as we have attempted to argue - if you can dig out the 30% clause to give us all hope then please do so.
 
est1905 said:
I'd be surprised if they did that before the CAS hearing. Doing so only gives Palace more ammunition. Doesn't look good on them in court does it? When the very rule they are arguing about they themselves have conveniently decided to change!
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The report I read suggested that any changes will be made after all the current issues have been resolved , so no chance of it happening prior to CAS.
 
est1905 said:
How do you know that behind closed doors Parish (and possibly Harris and Blitzer too) approached Textor about this very issue earlier in the season? They may have asked him to place his shares in a blind trust and he may have said no because he felt he was close to either a buyer for them or the flip side is he may have at that time not given up hope of buying Blitzer and Harris out.
They may then have asked him to at least show UEFA that he has no control at Palace and that this club is not part of his MCO group. Again (whether we agree or not is irrelevant) he may have said no. He felt the club were never going to win the cup, were never going to finish top 7 and even if that miracle happened he didn't believe Lyon would qualify for ANYTHING because even way back nearly a year ago they had a relegation hanging over them.

This comes back to the same thing. Regardless of what concerns Parish, Blitzer or Harris may or may not have had months ago they had no power to do anything about it. This has always been 100% Textor's problem to solve. You cant even blame the other owners for 'letting the wolf in the door' because Textor didn't own any other football club until AFTER he had invested in Palace. He wasn't a MCO at that time.
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Another Guess, many words, mostly hot air.
 
est1905 said:
He seemed very pessimistic about Palace's chances. I disagree with him on a few points such as 'they're better off in the Conference League anyway' bit pompous and dismissive of the fact we have earned the right to be in the EL as a consequence of winning the FA cup.
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I thought the same. We're also more likely to win the Championship than the Premier League but doesn't mean I want to go down.

We've proven we can beat any team on our day and I'd rather have a go at the bigger tournament even if we get knocked out earlier.
 
Eaglecoops said:
Where has anyone said Textor was a 100% silent partner? He was a 25% partner and the threshold within UEFA is 30%. UEFA are ignoring our company set up, or should I say Marinakis has probably paid them to ignore our set up.

Are you able to say what the compliance instructions were? Because if they said you must have less than 30% control of a club ie their own threshold then we would argue he did have less than 30%.
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Can someone point to me where this 30% threshold comes from?
 
est1905 said:
He seemed very pessimistic about Palace's chances. I disagree with him on a few points such as 'they're better off in the Conference League anyway' bit pompous and dismissive of the fact we have earned the right to be in the EL as a consequence of winning the FA cup.
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Well i am sure you know best, its not as if you have got everything wrong so far, oh hang on.....
 
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