Restore Britain.

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Restore is about representing the actual right. They will vote Restore but what Farage is doing is more his Thatcherite 'city boy' fever dream.

Farage is going to spend his time looking for MPs from other parties and basically the boomer class, he's not representing the youth coming through. As I said, nothing Reform are going to do will address the real problems and most of us know that.....but if it can stop the rot, it'll be something.

Currently Farage is our only hope to escape the progressives ruling the country so by Restore not being a party it won't wreck it but instead represent what the base is after Farage actually buggers off....which with Farage is as soon as he loses interest.

It's about the grass roots and the right coming through....most of the emerging talent is in the DR anyway....Charlie Downes in that video for example....already used by the media.

I know you're not interested but I thought I'd explain the intent.

I'm not sure I get it.

Reform is the only right wing party who can win the next election, or at least get a significant number of seats.
Discussions about ideology or how to move forward are irrelevant unless you get those seats in Parliament.

Rupert Lowe can write the greatest manifesto imaginable for rescuing Britain, but it will be like whistling in the wind without any power to act on it.
Farage will be there for the next election, and after we see the results, we can talk about what comes next.
We can't afford to screw this opportunity up. The window is small. Trying to run before we can walk seems very counterproductive to me.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Lowe welcomed back into the fold if Reform do well.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Are they the People’s Front of Judea or the Judean People’s Front?

Says the Corbyn fan.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I'm not sure I get it.

Reform is the only right wing party who can win the next election, or at least get a significant number of seats.
Discussions about ideology or how to move forward are irrelevant unless you get those seats in Parliament.

Rupert Lowe can write the greatest manifesto imaginable for rescuing Britain, but it will be like whistling in the wind without any power to act on it.
Farage will be there for the next election, and after we see the results, we can talk about what comes next.
We can't afford to screw this opportunity up. The window is small. Trying to run before we can walk seems very counterproductive to me.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Lowe welcomed back into the fold if Reform do well.

Can't see that happening, Farage hates his guts....but hey, stranger things have happened.

Think of Restore as after Farage and more about representing the DR into the wider right generally.

It's not about campaigning against Reform, it's a political movement not a party. That's what Habib's doing and like you I don't think it's the right time.

After the next election....who knows.

The battle for the right is no different to the battle for the left.....Lowe is the populist right and Corbyn is the populist left.....I hear Corbyn will be doing something soon.

Lowe isn't going to split Reform's votes.

 

[Spindle]

The battle for the right is no different to the battle for the left.....Lowe is the populist right and Corbyn is the populist left.....I hear Corbyn will be doing something soon.

Lowe isn't going to split Reform's votes.

Yup

Zarah Sultana says she is quitting Labour to start party with Jeremy Corbyn

Former Labour leader Corbyn has not yet confirmed his involvement to the BBC.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

The Restore statement reminds me of some of the late-night posts we used to have on HOL. In the sober morning light, things weren't quite as clear-cut as they were after 3 bottles of wine and half a bottle of port.

 

[DanH]

Says the Corbyn fan.

So big a fan I never voted for him.

 

[DanH]

The Restore statement reminds me of some of the late-night posts we used to have on HOL. In the sober morning light, things weren't quite as clear-cut as they were after 3 bottles of wine and half a bottle of port.

I think you’ve nailed Rupert Lowe’s entire sound and aesthetic there.

The DR’s great big hope is basically Rowley Birkin QC.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

I think you’ve nailed Rupert Lowe’s entire sound and aesthetic there.

The DR’s great big hope is basically Rowley Birkin QC.

I am afraid I am very, very drunk

 

[silvertop]

What will they actually do?

"Fight lawfare" apparently???

 

[DanH]

I am afraid I am very, very drunk

If they had someone that wasn’t a pensioner with enough money to have a well worn red wine face they might actually worry some people that matter.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

If they had someone that wasn’t a pensioner with enough money to have a well worn red wine face they might actually worry some people that matter.

Didn't hold the Republicans back.

 

[Stirlingsays]

So big a fan I never voted for him.

I find that very hard to believe.

So who did you vote for and why?

 

[DanH]

I find that very hard to believe.

So who did you vote for and why?

Lib Dems in that election. The only alternative to Tory in my constituency.

 

[Spindle]

The Corbynistas are so thick. They vote on their principles instead of getting the best deal available under the system thus ending up with a government that they would hate even more. This isn't good for the greens either.

It'll definitely peel a few more away from Labour should it even last 3 years.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Lib Dems in that election. The only alternative to Tory in my constituency.

Well that makes sense.

Fair enough, I believe you.

So did you move? As that would make sense for you for every election.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The Corbynistas are so thick. They vote on their principles instead of getting the best deal available under the system thus ending up with a government that they would hate even more. This isn't good for the greens either.

It'll definitely peel a few more away from Labour should it even last 3 years.

People said the same about Reform.

I actually have sympathy for new parties that reject the corruption and compromising that the mainstream gets cloaked in.

I can see them doing well......Blairism may be ingrained at the elite level but it's lost a massive amount of popularity at grass roots level on both left and right.

Even this far out I can't see how Labour can win the next election.....the economics won't let them and they don't have anyone with the charisma to combat that.

They would do better going back to Corbyn politically.

 

[Badger11]

People said the same about Reform.

I actually have sympathy for new parties that reject the corruption and compromising that the mainstream gets cloaked in.

I can see them doing well......Blairism may be ingrained at the elite level but it's lost a massive amount of popularity at grass roots level on both left and right.

Even this far out I can see how Labour can win the next election.....the economics won't let them and they don't have anyone with the charisma to combat that.

They would do better going back to Corbyn politically.

I'm hoping that new parties on the left and the right will kick Labour and Tories up the backside and make them think about their policies.

 

[DanH]

Well that makes sense.

Fair enough, I believe you.

So did you move? As that would make sense for you for every election.

Yeah I make a habit of buying and selling houses just to tactically vote against the Conservative Party.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Yeah I make a habit of buying and selling houses just to tactically vote against the Conservative Party.

So you've had to sully yourself voting for Lib Dems all this time.

All while your real love is achingly out of reach.

Must kinda suck.

 

[Spindle]

People said the same about Reform.

I actually have sympathy for new parties that reject the corruption and compromising that the mainstream gets cloaked in.

I can see them doing well......Blairism may be ingrained at the elite level but it's lost a massive amount of popularity at grass roots level on both left and right.

Even this far out I can't see how Labour can win the next election.....the economics won't let them and they don't have anyone with the charisma to combat that.

They would do better going back to Corbyn politically.

A bit like when Heath f***ed everything up so bad in the 70s Labour won by accident, but things were so bad that despite turning things round an extremist right winger won the following election....