The bbc, again.

[Teddy Eagle]

I wouldn’t classify that as a breach of political impartiality rules, which is what is really being discussed. This was, in someone’s judgment, an error by a programme maker. Very much though also a matter of opinion.

Unfortunately the opinion that counts is the one of the organisation responsible for the decision.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

That’s nothing to do with political impartiality. It was a mistake and therefore a breach of the broadcasting code. An error of judgement by an editor. Not the deliberate slanting of content.

What was that blur that flashed by? Oh, just the goalposts headed somewhere else.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Unfortunately the opinion that counts is the one of the organisation responsible for the decision.

It obviously is, but it still directed at one incident in one programme, probably involving one person’s judgement. Hardly the same as the predetermined political presentation of the type the underlies GBNews.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It obviously is, but it still directed at one incident in one programme, probably involving one person’s judgement. Hardly the same as the predetermined political presentation of the type the underlies GBNews.

However you dress it up they were found to have broken broadcast impartiality rules by those responsible for making the decision. One incident in one programme is all it takes. As the Trump case demonstrates: one incident, one programme, one lawsuit.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

However you dress it up they were found to have broken broadcast impartiality rules by those responsible for making the decision. One incident in one programme is all it takes. As the Trump case demonstrates: one incident, one programme, one lawsuit.

As the Trump case demonstrates those determined to try to make political capital and/or financial gain out of someone's error are a growing problem. Trump's case will fizzle out, because all he really wanted was to divert attention from his own failings, and he will be gone soon enough anyway.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

As the Trump case demonstrates those determined to try to make political capital and/or financial gain out of someone's error are a growing problem. Trump's case will fizzle out, because all he really wanted was to divert attention from his own failings, and he will be gone soon enough anyway.

And what does Ofcom stand to gain from finding them in breach of the rules?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

And what does Ofcom stand to gain from finding them in breach of the rules?

They keep their jobs. Which is a big incentive.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

They keep their jobs. Which is a big incentive.

That also applies to finding against GB News then?

 

[Badger11]

Reform critics 'dupe their way into Question Time audience'

Bruce is said to have told a group after the recording of Thursday's show that Left-wing supporters were telling producers they were Reform supporters to secure an audience place.

www.dailymail.com

I think we can file this under tell us something we didn't know already.

I am not blaming the BBC if someone is determined to misrepresent themselves to be in the audience of a TV show I guess they can do that quite easily.

Back in the day Momentum told it's supporters to call in to radio shows and pretend to be Joe Average Working Man rather than Tarquin the Corbynister.

As in "I don't know much about politics but Jeremy Corbyn whatta guy".

 

[Spindle]

"She (Braver man) was accused of 'reinforcing the racist argument' and 'being racist against herself'"

....like the left are with white people then

 

[silvertop]

Reform critics 'dupe their way into Question Time audience'

Bruce is said to have told a group after the recording of Thursday's show that Left-wing supporters were telling producers they were Reform supporters to secure an audience place.

www.dailymail.com

I think we can file this under tell us something we didn't know already.

I am not blaming the BBC if someone is determined to misrepresent themselves to be in the audience of a TV show I guess they can do that quite easily.

Back in the day Momentum told it's supporters to call in to radio shows and pretend to be Joe Average Working Man rather than Tarquin the Corbynister.

As in "I don't know much about politics but Jeremy Corbyn whatta guy".

A dull trick from both ends of the spectrum since time Immemorial

 

[Spiderman]

Reform critics 'dupe their way into Question Time audience'

Bruce is said to have told a group after the recording of Thursday's show that Left-wing supporters were telling producers they were Reform supporters to secure an audience place.

www.dailymail.com

I think we can file this under tell us something we didn't know already.

I am not blaming the BBC if someone is determined to misrepresent themselves to be in the audience of a TV show I guess they can do that quite easily.

Back in the day Momentum told it's supporters to call in to radio shows and pretend to be Joe Average Working Man rather than Tarquin the Corbynister.

As in "I don't know much about politics but Jeremy Corbyn whatta guy".

Were they really duped? If so, Could they not have stopped filming when it became obvious? Or is that to obvious?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Were they really duped? If so, Could they not have stopped filming when it became obvious? Or is that to obvious?

Maybe because they were asking pertinent questions?

 

[Spiderman]

Maybe because they were asking pertinent questions?

But lied to get on the show, or did they? 🤔

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

That also applies to finding against GB News then?

I might also keep them in work, but as the referrals seem to be made by themselves the motivation is also purer and less inclined to be malicious.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

But lied to get on the show, or did they? 🤔

I have no idea, other than what has been suggested here. I stopped watching this years ago. It’s a predictable slagging match. Sometimes so pathetic it’s funny but informative not at all.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I might also keep them in work, but as the referrals seem to be made by themselves the motivation is also purer and less inclined to be malicious.

Right. Well that's cleared that up then.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Right. Well that's cleared that up then.

You don’t think some of the referrals made to Ofcom about the BBC are malicious?

I think there are some who watch their output solely to identify potential complaints.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You don’t think some of the referrals made to Ofcom about the BBC are malicious?

I think there are some who watch their output solely to identify potential complaints.

And that doesn't apply to GB News? OK.
The difference being that one of them is a dedicated news outlet and the BBC has a remit to entertain.

 

[HKOwen]

The difference is GB News is a commercial enterprise and does not try to hide any partisan opinion