Glasner Out

The usual, and sensible, approach is to involve the manager in both.
Why? If I was a manager I would not want any involvement in an outgoing transfer. My job would be whats best for my team. If he's going he is no longer relevant on a professional level.
 
Realistically, How soon do you expect a new manager to start getting the best out of our squad bearing in mind in all likelihood when he walks in the door he wont even know most of their names let alone their capabilities?
It will take time. Time we dont have. Our best chance of a turnaround is to hold our nerve and hope Glasner can turn the ship around once Munoz, Sarr, Riad and maybe a signing or two are available
Hence the suggestion of letting Paddy do it pro tem.
 
Hence the suggestion of letting Paddy do it pro tem.
I dont feel Paddy can do the job even on a temp basis. Thats my opinion. I think its too big for him. I could be wrong. If Glasner does end up hastily booted out we'll have to find out if thats true the hard way. Personally I wouldn't take the risk. Plus if it went very badly Paddy himself may never recover from it.
 
Why? If I was a manager I would not want any involvement in an outgoing transfer. My job would be whats best for my team. If he's going he is no longer relevant on a professional level.
The relevance is precisely because of what is best for the team. Obviously any first team player that leaves without a replacement is a decision that makes us weaker.

How can you do squad planning with only knowledge of incoming activity?
 
Oliver Glasner has shown himself to be a hypocrite who spends far too much time moaning and deflecting blame. What he achieved last season was fantastic and we will always be grateful for that. But the way he has conducted himself this season has been nothing short of embarrassing.

What exactly did he expect when he took the job? That Palace were suddenly going to start throwing £100m+ around every summer? We are not that club and never have been. We are a mid-table Premier League side, competing with clubs who dwarf us financially. We are a selling club by necessity, not choice, and player trading is essential to our long-term sustainability.

Despite that, the board have backed Glasner far more than he ever acknowledges. Since his appointment, Palace have sold roughly £78m worth of players and spent around £83m – a net spend that shows clear intent to support him. Yet all we hear is complaining.

Eze wanted to leave. Anyone with a brain could see that after the season he had. There was never a realistic scenario where he stayed long-term, so Glasner’s constant moaning about the timing of that sale is baffling. The same applies to Marc Guehi. We turned down £35m in the summer at Glasner’s request, which already shows the club bent over backwards for him. But when January comes and City offer £20m rather than risking losing him for nothing, how is a club like Palace supposed to say no? That is basic football economics.

What makes it worse is that Glasner doesn’t help himself. He refuses to rotate the squad, barely trusts youth players, and has shown no real interest in developing talent. Players like Jesse Derry, Esse and Rak-Sakyi have been frozen out, despite Palace historically relying on youth pathways. That’s not just bad short-term thinking, it’s anti-Palace.

As for transfers, Glasner had a major say. These weren’t signings forced upon him. And frankly, the hit rate has been poor. Muñoz is a genuine success. Beyond that, it’s grim reading. Sosa looks Championship level at best. Uche is nowhere near Premier League standard. Nketiah was a complete waste of money. Riad has barely been fit, raising serious questions about physical readiness and recruitment judgement. When so many of “his” players fail to deliver, responsibility has to sit with the manager.

We’ve even broken our transfer record with Johnson at £35m, yet Glasner still acts like he’s working with scraps.

The hypocrisy is staggering. He publicly criticised the club for selling Guehi the day before a match, yet then announces he’s leaving at the end of the season… the day before a game. How is that acceptable leadership?

On the pitch, the coaching issues are obvious. We’ve been shocking at defending set pieces all season, that’s a coaching failure, not a budget issue. The set-up against Macclesfield was wrong from the start. These are tactical problems, not resource problems.

And none of this is new. Glasner behaved the same way at Frankfurt and Wolfsburg. At both clubs he clashed with the board, publicly criticised recruitment, showed little interest in youth development, and ultimately burned bridges rather than adapting to the realities of the club. This isn’t bad luck, it’s a pattern. He’s a petulant manager who wants a bigger job without accepting the constraints that come with anything below the elite.

I genuinely believe Palace should sack him now. It wouldn’t cost much, and at least it would allow us to reset and prevents the board being humiliated by Glasner and his negative comments. Give Paddy McCarthy the job until the end of the season if needed, at least he understands the club, the culture and the importance of building for the future. Right now, Glasner looks like a man counting down the days, not someone invested in Crystal Palace Football Club.

Ideally, Spurs sack Frank, hire Glasner, and we take Frank. Spurs is a cursed job and this season isn’t a fair reflection of his ability. What he did at Brentford shows exactly the sort of manager Palace should want: pragmatic, developmental, and realistic. Glasner is none of those things.
 
The relevance is precisely because of what is best for the team. Obviously any first team player that leaves without a replacement is a decision that makes us weaker.

How can you do squad planning with only knowledge of incoming activity?
Its obvious the manager has to be told at the earliest opportunity when a member of his squad is leaving. Thats the only involvement he needs to have.
As far as sourcing a replacement thats an incoming transfer. nothing to do with the player thats leaving
 
Its obvious the manager has to be told at the earliest opportunity when a member of his squad is leaving. Thats the only involvement he needs to have.
As far as sourcing a replacement thats an incoming transfer. nothing to do with the player thats leaving
And in light of all the speculation around Marc for months he should have been braced in the crash position ready for him to leave.
 
Now I think Textor has some responsibility. He had a different philosophy to other Board members, and he played a significant part in securing Glasner. I think after Textor went, some of the promises to Glasner went with him.
I'd like to think that communication was always there with the Board. Glasner has indicated they talk all the time.
Now I'm struggling to see how Palace got to this point. 😐😐🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
 
Having had time to process the events of the last few days, I'm struggling to understand how Glasner can continue to have a working relationship with both Parish and the players.

We have of course only heard one side of the story to date.

But I question whether Parish really wants Glasner to stay or if he's just forcing his hand into resigning to avoid sacking him and paying him off.
 
Now I think Textor has some responsibility. He had a different philosophy to other Board members, and he played a significant part in securing Glasner. I think after Textor went, some of the promises to Glasner went with him.
I'd like to think that communication was always there with the Board. Glasner has indicated they talk all the time.
Now I'm struggling to see how Palace got to this point. 😐😐🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
I find SJ a bit annoying, but I think he makes some very balanced and valid points. He also said he'd been on the phone to Textor who was sl@gging Parish off due to his lack of ambition!

 
Now I think Textor has some responsibility. He had a different philosophy to other Board members, and he played a significant part in securing Glasner. I think after Textor went, some of the promises to Glasner went with him.
I'd like to think that communication was always there with the Board. Glasner has indicated they talk all the time.
Now I'm struggling to see how Palace got to this point. 😐😐🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
he could promise all he wanted it was still down to Dougie parish and the other 2 to agree🙁
 
I find SJ a bit annoying, but I think he makes some very balanced and valid points. He also said he'd been on the phone to Textor who was sl@gging Parish off due to his lack of ambition!

of course he was mmmmmmm jealous much
 
When you own the second largest Club in France you can get away with a hell of a lot like Liverpool, Man City or United. So Textor virtually bankrupted Lyon to build his football empire and got away with it fooling the French football authorities and UEFA. Parish knows it wouldn’t work with Palace. Textor showed OG the dream and SP has shown him reality.
 
Oliver Glasner has shown himself to be a hypocrite who spends far too much time moaning and deflecting blame. What he achieved last season was fantastic and we will always be grateful for that. But the way he has conducted himself this season has been nothing short of embarrassing.

What exactly did he expect when he took the job? That Palace were suddenly going to start throwing £100m+ around every summer? We are not that club and never have been. We are a mid-table Premier League side, competing with clubs who dwarf us financially. We are a selling club by necessity, not choice, and player trading is essential to our long-term sustainability.

Despite that, the board have backed Glasner far more than he ever acknowledges. Since his appointment, Palace have sold roughly £78m worth of players and spent around £83m – a net spend that shows clear intent to support him. Yet all we hear is complaining.

Eze wanted to leave. Anyone with a brain could see that after the season he had. There was never a realistic scenario where he stayed long-term, so Glasner’s constant moaning about the timing of that sale is baffling. The same applies to Marc Guehi. We turned down £35m in the summer at Glasner’s request, which already shows the club bent over backwards for him. But when January comes and City offer £20m rather than risking losing him for nothing, how is a club like Palace supposed to say no? That is basic football economics.

What makes it worse is that Glasner doesn’t help himself. He refuses to rotate the squad, barely trusts youth players, and has shown no real interest in developing talent. Players like Jesse Derry, Esse and Rak-Sakyi have been frozen out, despite Palace historically relying on youth pathways. That’s not just bad short-term thinking, it’s anti-Palace.

As for transfers, Glasner had a major say. These weren’t signings forced upon him. And frankly, the hit rate has been poor. Muñoz is a genuine success. Beyond that, it’s grim reading. Sosa looks Championship level at best. Uche is nowhere near Premier League standard. Nketiah was a complete waste of money. Riad has barely been fit, raising serious questions about physical readiness and recruitment judgement. When so many of “his” players fail to deliver, responsibility has to sit with the manager.

We’ve even broken our transfer record with Johnson at £35m, yet Glasner still acts like he’s working with scraps.

The hypocrisy is staggering. He publicly criticised the club for selling Guehi the day before a match, yet then announces he’s leaving at the end of the season… the day before a game. How is that acceptable leadership?

On the pitch, the coaching issues are obvious. We’ve been shocking at defending set pieces all season, that’s a coaching failure, not a budget issue. The set-up against Macclesfield was wrong from the start. These are tactical problems, not resource problems.

And none of this is new. Glasner behaved the same way at Frankfurt and Wolfsburg. At both clubs he clashed with the board, publicly criticised recruitment, showed little interest in youth development, and ultimately burned bridges rather than adapting to the realities of the club. This isn’t bad luck, it’s a pattern. He’s a petulant manager who wants a bigger job without accepting the constraints that come with anything below the elite.

I genuinely believe Palace should sack him now. It wouldn’t cost much, and at least it would allow us to reset and prevents the board being humiliated by Glasner and his negative comments. Give Paddy McCarthy the job until the end of the season if needed, at least he understands the club, the culture and the importance of building for the future. Right now, Glasner looks like a man counting down the days, not someone invested in Crystal Palace Football Club.

Ideally, Spurs sack Frank, hire Glasner, and we take Frank. Spurs is a cursed job and this season isn’t a fair reflection of his ability. What he did at Brentford shows exactly the sort of manager Palace should want: pragmatic, developmental, and realistic. Glasner is none of those things.
Like most people, I have been disappointed with Glasners conduct over the last couple of weeks.

I don't think he's daft enough not to know where Palace sit financially. And I'm sure that there would have been transparency from Parish when he was recruiting Glasner.

When we get to the figures you quote it tells a different story. A net of -£5m spend is more about breaking financially even than backing the manager in the market.

I think you are missing Glasners point when it comes to the sales of Eze and Guehi. His issue is with the timing of those sales not the sales themselves. He said it himself the other day - Guehi will leave when the club receive an acceptable offer. What annoyed him was the fact he was preparing Guehi for the Sunderland game without being told that the transfer had been agreed and that Marc was no longer available.

The young players you mention - Rak-Sakyi and Esse haven't done enough, from what I've seen of them, to merit much more than the opportunities they've had. Jessie Derry hasn't featured for Chelsea despite, according to him, providing a clearer pathway to first team football. Roy used to get criticised for not giving young players a chance.

You say that Glasner had a '' major say '' in signings. Define that - because I read the reports back in August that Parish wanted Pino and Glasner didn't. The fact is that we don't know to what extent Glasner is involved.

Which brings us to Johnson. How much input would there have been from a manager that verbally handed his notice in 3 months ago ? If you were Parish how much value do you place in his opinion ?

In terms of tactics, I dispute that the set piece defending has been bad all season. That it has been of late is undeniable. As for Macclesfield, tactics shouldn't really come into it. We should have been able to put any permutation of our squad out there and won the game.

Ultimately though, I have come to the view that Glasner should go now. But on Palace's terms not his.
 

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