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Even Man U recognised when to sack their manager.
Glasner Out
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Teddy Eagle
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He's already gone over the top.
more like captain red beard rum
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So did Celtic which was a shame because it was fun calling them the Nancy Bhoys.
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More like Stroh rum. That'll adjust his attitude.
eaglesdare
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I completely agree. The atmosphere is going to be toxic on Sunday. A new manager in and the crowd will be behind him especially against a free hit kind of game. Best to pull the tigger now and we all move on.
I agree his next press conference will be very interesting. Does he double down and criticize the owners even more? Doing that is practically daring the owners to sack him but that kind of conduct could be written into his contract as a sackable (with no compensation pay out) as a breach of contract.
I imagine its much more likely he will water down previous comments. Explain feelings were running high at the end of the game. Maybe even apologise and try to spin it that its because he cares too much.
I've already said and will say again, if (big IF) a few players return and we start picking up points again the background noise will die down and everyone (well, most people) will get behind the team and just accept the change will not be made until the summer.
If the barren run continues the negativity will only increase. Then his position becomes untenable. I dont think we can demand a win against Chelsea but I think the two games after that is what he should be judged on. He should have almost a full squad available to choose from too so there will be no excuses.
I imagine its much more likely he will water down previous comments. Explain feelings were running high at the end of the game. Maybe even apologise and try to spin it that its because he cares too much.
I've already said and will say again, if (big IF) a few players return and we start picking up points again the background noise will die down and everyone (well, most people) will get behind the team and just accept the change will not be made until the summer.
If the barren run continues the negativity will only increase. Then his position becomes untenable. I dont think we can demand a win against Chelsea but I think the two games after that is what he should be judged on. He should have almost a full squad available to choose from too so there will be no excuses.
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The usual, and sensible, approach is to involve the manager in both.
Realistically, How soon do you expect a new manager to start getting the best out of our squad bearing in mind in all likelihood when he walks in the door he wont even know most of their names let alone their capabilities?
It will take time. Time we dont have. Our best chance of a turnaround is to hold our nerve and hope Glasner can turn the ship around once Munoz, Sarr, Riad and maybe a signing or two are available
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I think he has a lot to do, if he genuinely wants to see his contract out.
He could start by being man enough to make a public apology to us fans and also confirm that he's apologized to the players who were on the bench for his outburst on Saturday.
He might also start using some of the bench players more so that they have a chance to grow before the season's end. If he can bring Uche, Canvot, Riad (and possibly even Rodney who is 21 after all) up to a level where they can be genuine 1st team options by the end of this season, he'll have shown that he really is sorry for his outburst and has tried to do his part in developing our 1st team squad.
If his outburst was a result of the serious head injury that ended his playing career, then I can accept that and move on.
Why? If I was a manager I would not want any involvement in an outgoing transfer. My job would be whats best for my team. If he's going he is no longer relevant on a professional level.
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Hence the suggestion of letting Paddy do it pro tem.
I dont feel Paddy can do the job even on a temp basis. Thats my opinion. I think its too big for him. I could be wrong. If Glasner does end up hastily booted out we'll have to find out if thats true the hard way. Personally I wouldn't take the risk. Plus if it went very badly Paddy himself may never recover from it.
Surely he will dress in a US marine uniform and go full Colonel Nathan Jessep on us
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Linford
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The relevance is precisely because of what is best for the team. Obviously any first team player that leaves without a replacement is a decision that makes us weaker.
How can you do squad planning with only knowledge of incoming activity?
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It made me chuckle but please NOOOOOOOOO!
Oliver Glasner has shown himself to be a hypocrite who spends far too much time moaning and deflecting blame. What he achieved last season was fantastic and we will always be grateful for that. But the way he has conducted himself this season has been nothing short of embarrassing.
What exactly did he expect when he took the job? That Palace were suddenly going to start throwing £100m+ around every summer? We are not that club and never have been. We are a mid-table Premier League side, competing with clubs who dwarf us financially. We are a selling club by necessity, not choice, and player trading is essential to our long-term sustainability.
Despite that, the board have backed Glasner far more than he ever acknowledges. Since his appointment, Palace have sold roughly £78m worth of players and spent around £83m – a net spend that shows clear intent to support him. Yet all we hear is complaining.
Eze wanted to leave. Anyone with a brain could see that after the season he had. There was never a realistic scenario where he stayed long-term, so Glasner’s constant moaning about the timing of that sale is baffling. The same applies to Marc Guehi. We turned down £35m in the summer at Glasner’s request, which already shows the club bent over backwards for him. But when January comes and City offer £20m rather than risking losing him for nothing, how is a club like Palace supposed to say no? That is basic football economics.
What makes it worse is that Glasner doesn’t help himself. He refuses to rotate the squad, barely trusts youth players, and has shown no real interest in developing talent. Players like Jesse Derry, Esse and Rak-Sakyi have been frozen out, despite Palace historically relying on youth pathways. That’s not just bad short-term thinking, it’s anti-Palace.
As for transfers, Glasner had a major say. These weren’t signings forced upon him. And frankly, the hit rate has been poor. Muñoz is a genuine success. Beyond that, it’s grim reading. Sosa looks Championship level at best. Uche is nowhere near Premier League standard. Nketiah was a complete waste of money. Riad has barely been fit, raising serious questions about physical readiness and recruitment judgement. When so many of “his” players fail to deliver, responsibility has to sit with the manager.
We’ve even broken our transfer record with Johnson at £35m, yet Glasner still acts like he’s working with scraps.
The hypocrisy is staggering. He publicly criticised the club for selling Guehi the day before a match, yet then announces he’s leaving at the end of the season… the day before a game. How is that acceptable leadership?
On the pitch, the coaching issues are obvious. We’ve been shocking at defending set pieces all season, that’s a coaching failure, not a budget issue. The set-up against Macclesfield was wrong from the start. These are tactical problems, not resource problems.
And none of this is new. Glasner behaved the same way at Frankfurt and Wolfsburg. At both clubs he clashed with the board, publicly criticised recruitment, showed little interest in youth development, and ultimately burned bridges rather than adapting to the realities of the club. This isn’t bad luck, it’s a pattern. He’s a petulant manager who wants a bigger job without accepting the constraints that come with anything below the elite.
I genuinely believe Palace should sack him now. It wouldn’t cost much, and at least it would allow us to reset and prevents the board being humiliated by Glasner and his negative comments. Give Paddy McCarthy the job until the end of the season if needed, at least he understands the club, the culture and the importance of building for the future. Right now, Glasner looks like a man counting down the days, not someone invested in Crystal Palace Football Club.
Ideally, Spurs sack Frank, hire Glasner, and we take Frank. Spurs is a cursed job and this season isn’t a fair reflection of his ability. What he did at Brentford shows exactly the sort of manager Palace should want: pragmatic, developmental, and realistic. Glasner is none of those things.
What exactly did he expect when he took the job? That Palace were suddenly going to start throwing £100m+ around every summer? We are not that club and never have been. We are a mid-table Premier League side, competing with clubs who dwarf us financially. We are a selling club by necessity, not choice, and player trading is essential to our long-term sustainability.
Despite that, the board have backed Glasner far more than he ever acknowledges. Since his appointment, Palace have sold roughly £78m worth of players and spent around £83m – a net spend that shows clear intent to support him. Yet all we hear is complaining.
Eze wanted to leave. Anyone with a brain could see that after the season he had. There was never a realistic scenario where he stayed long-term, so Glasner’s constant moaning about the timing of that sale is baffling. The same applies to Marc Guehi. We turned down £35m in the summer at Glasner’s request, which already shows the club bent over backwards for him. But when January comes and City offer £20m rather than risking losing him for nothing, how is a club like Palace supposed to say no? That is basic football economics.
What makes it worse is that Glasner doesn’t help himself. He refuses to rotate the squad, barely trusts youth players, and has shown no real interest in developing talent. Players like Jesse Derry, Esse and Rak-Sakyi have been frozen out, despite Palace historically relying on youth pathways. That’s not just bad short-term thinking, it’s anti-Palace.
As for transfers, Glasner had a major say. These weren’t signings forced upon him. And frankly, the hit rate has been poor. Muñoz is a genuine success. Beyond that, it’s grim reading. Sosa looks Championship level at best. Uche is nowhere near Premier League standard. Nketiah was a complete waste of money. Riad has barely been fit, raising serious questions about physical readiness and recruitment judgement. When so many of “his” players fail to deliver, responsibility has to sit with the manager.
We’ve even broken our transfer record with Johnson at £35m, yet Glasner still acts like he’s working with scraps.
The hypocrisy is staggering. He publicly criticised the club for selling Guehi the day before a match, yet then announces he’s leaving at the end of the season… the day before a game. How is that acceptable leadership?
On the pitch, the coaching issues are obvious. We’ve been shocking at defending set pieces all season, that’s a coaching failure, not a budget issue. The set-up against Macclesfield was wrong from the start. These are tactical problems, not resource problems.
And none of this is new. Glasner behaved the same way at Frankfurt and Wolfsburg. At both clubs he clashed with the board, publicly criticised recruitment, showed little interest in youth development, and ultimately burned bridges rather than adapting to the realities of the club. This isn’t bad luck, it’s a pattern. He’s a petulant manager who wants a bigger job without accepting the constraints that come with anything below the elite.
I genuinely believe Palace should sack him now. It wouldn’t cost much, and at least it would allow us to reset and prevents the board being humiliated by Glasner and his negative comments. Give Paddy McCarthy the job until the end of the season if needed, at least he understands the club, the culture and the importance of building for the future. Right now, Glasner looks like a man counting down the days, not someone invested in Crystal Palace Football Club.
Ideally, Spurs sack Frank, hire Glasner, and we take Frank. Spurs is a cursed job and this season isn’t a fair reflection of his ability. What he did at Brentford shows exactly the sort of manager Palace should want: pragmatic, developmental, and realistic. Glasner is none of those things.