Trump DEI obsession

[cryrst]

Let’s indeed get it right, because you haven’t. All you have done is wheel out the same old prejudices and excuses that you have battered everyone here with for years.

The Democrats did not spend any time trying to put Trump in jail. If they had used their political influence it would have been to stop the cases as making him a martyr was the last thing they, or the country, needed. It was the due process of the law which pursued Trump. He did the crime and the law decided no one is above it. They didn’t persecute anyone. What a ridiculous idea. The idea that this was just a fight between Republicans and Democrats is nonsense. The first fight was between traditional Republicans and the MAGA mob. A fight that the traditional Republicans lost by not standing firm. They were, and still are, intimidated by Trump’s ability to control their destiny. He openly threatens those who criticise him, although those days look now to be about to end.

The Democrats were proved right. Trump posing as a martyr alongside Biden not standing down early enough handed him the victory. Something the electorate there are now learning to regret.

The Democrats are not left wing. Not in any sense of international politics. Of the two parties in the USA they are further to the left than the Republicans under Trump but so is almost everyone. They are liberals who hold a centralist position on most things. They don’t believe in public ownership of state assets. They do believe in the benefits of capitalism and encourage entrepreneurs. They believe in free trade and in cooperating with like minded economies. They stand up to dictators, and don’t appease or admire them.

Neither they, or I, are “anti-white”. A term which is grossly offence to many and says so much more about those who use it than ever it does about the intended targets.

Your prejudice over gender dysphoria and towards those both suffering from it and those trying to help them is something I think you need to seek help for. It’s abnormal.

It is perfectly natural to want the rights of others not to be impacted either, which makes charting the right course difficult but just dismissing those who are genuinely struggling as “autistic” shows wilful ignorance born exclusively from prejudice. It’s disgusting to read.

Trying to understand and accommodate all people isn’t evil. It’s showing compassion and love. Qualities sadly lacking in your contributions.

To Accommodate all people is impossible.
The majority to have the best outcome from decisions. This cannot also be means tested or racially biased. It has to be the majority as a number.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

DEI has ruined University admissions in many parts of the US. Cos now the best candidates, with the best school-grades, are not getting accepted. Not onto the best courses. There have been protests from Chinese-americans about this. All high IQ and highly motivated. They are regularly getting passed-over for acceptance. All cos the Lefty brigade want a class-photo that accords with their Coca Cola advert of american life.

When you need an operation at hospital, who do you want standing over you in a gown ? Dr Wang, IQ 184 ? or a graffiti-tag kid from Croydon whose school grades were dire ?

Personality, culture, and the Asian American experience

In the lawsuit against Harvard’s affirmative action policies, the plaintiff, Students for Fair Admissions, has what some believe could be a “<a...

www.columbiaspectator.com

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Unfortunately, we are not all of equal abilities. That's the way it is.

The best candidates for jobs being passed over is just self-defeating

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

To Accommodate all people is impossible.
The majority to have the best outcome from decisions. This cannot also be means tested or racially biased. It has to be the majority as a number.

Which is why I said “trying” to accommodate! We can never achieve nirvana. We can only strive towards it.

In a well functioning modern democracy, reflecting the will of the majority doesn’t mean you ignore the needs of the minorities. That principle being in everyone’s interests as you never know when your majority will become a minority.

That’s not happening under Trump. Minorities are being trampled on. I hope that when they become a minority their desire for revenge doesn’t take lumps out of their butt.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Unfortunately, we are not all of equal abilities. That's the way it is.

The best candidates for jobs being passed over is just self-defeating

Obviously true but DEI is intended to achieve this, not stop it.

Removing barriers composed of prejudice and privilege and taking decisions based solely on ability is the whole point of DEI.

Should it stray into providing greater opportunities for those from minorities then it has lost its focus.

If that happens it needs to refocus, not be abandoned.

 

[Spindle]

He picks on the Somalis? Here's one reason why. Really worth watching.

 

[eaglesdare]

So, no more than hours after the collision between an aircraft and military helicopter, (remember that?)Trump was blaming air traffic control on account of their staff hiring policy and DEI.

They've now released findings of the enquiry where it's found that the fault, primarily, is at the hands of the military, not air traffic control.

Any chance that Trump will officially make amends, or even apologise for the slur?

None.

Despicable man, of course.

The findings actually blame both the military pilots and FAA air traffic control for the crash, validating Trump's early warnings about DEI potentially compromising aviation safety.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/american-airlines-flight-5342-us-army-helicopter-crash

 

[silvertop]

I am surprised the OP is bothered with this.

Trump is a buffoon saying the first thing that pops into his head but with sufficient sense to know that it appeals to folk who scrape even lower than him.

His supporters who attend his rallies have simply decamped from wrestling shows and the like. They are morons.

DEI is an important issue and worthy of debate but it had nothing to do with this accident.

 

[silvertop]

The findings actually blame both the military pilots and FAA air traffic control for the crash, validating Trump's early warnings about DEI potentially compromising aviation safety.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/american-airlines-flight-5342-us-army-helicopter-crash

Did it establish any causal connection between the civil end of the blame and DEI?

If not (ie not) then the attempt to conflate is ludicrous.

 

[Badger11]

He picks on the Somalis? Here's one reason why. Really worth watching.

I haven't watched all of the video because I saw this.

Ilhan Omar facing probe over how wealth rocketed to $30million

Ilhan Omar's financial disclosure forms detail a shocking increase in assets, with one listing skyrocketing from only $1,000 to a maximum of $30million.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I'm sure it's all a coincidence and can be explained.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

DEI is an important issue and worthy of debate.

my opinion. Do not do DEI for ALL groups who statistically are deemed to somehow be victims.....as is the normal DEI. Women, ethnic minorities, LGBTQ etc...... Do not do DEI where there are many examples of great success from those groups. Millionaire women, millionaire minorities, millionaire LGBTQ people.
No help was needed for JK Rowling, Wilfried Zaha, or Elton John.



But yes, do DEI wherein its extremely rare and difficult for such people to succeed... People in wheelchairs, with learning disabilities, the blind, the elderly etc.
Yes we have the dyslexic Richard Branson millionaire or the blind David Blunkett Cabinet minister.....but its far more rare to succeed with these disadvantages.

 

[eaglesdare]

Did it establish any causal connection between the civil end of the blame and DEI?

If not (ie not) then the attempt to conflate is ludicrous.

The report doesn't explicitly link the FAA controller's errors to DEI, but it confirms serious air traffic control failures exactly what Trump warned about when he flagged DEI risks to aviation safety right after the crash.

If DEI played no part, why not investigate it openly.

 

[Badger11]

my opinion. Do not do DEI for ALL groups who statistically underperform in the economy.....as is the normal DEI. Women, ethnic minorities, LGBTQ etc...... Do not do DEI where there are many examples of great success from those groups. Millionaire women, millionaire minorities, millionaire LGBTQ people.
No help was needed for JK Rowling, Wilfried Zaha, or Elton John.



But yes, do DEI wherein its extremely rare and difficult for such people to succeed... People in wheelchairs, with learning disabilities, the blind, the elderly etc.

DEI for me means promoting people with little justification beyond that they are (insert name of group claiming victim hood).

So I disagree about DEI even for people with handicaps.

However providing step free access to work or computer equipment for people who are blind is not DEI, it's basic decency. After that it is up to them if they are good enough to warrant their current position or promotion.

Employers are not social workers despite what the Uniparty has been trying to do.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

DEI for me means promoting people with little justification beyond that they are (insert name of group claiming victim hood).

So I disagree about DEI even for people with handicaps.

However providing step free access to work or computer equipment for people who are blind is not DEI, it's basic decency. After that it is up to them if they are good enough to warrant their current position or promotion.

Employers are not social workers despite what the Uniparty has been trying to do.

If DEI was applied by you in that way you would be failing its intentions.

It is intended to promote equal opportunities and fairness. Not provide advantage.

No employer is a social worker but all have a duty of care towards their employees.

I don’t argue that examples can be found where mistakes have been made and the pendulum pushed too far. When that happens correction is needed, but not the abandonment of the whole principle. Just a return to, and focus on, it.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

DEI for me means promoting people with little justification beyond that they are (insert name of group claiming victim hood).

you are correct Eagle. Some girls are born with beautiful DNA, others will always be munters.

Life is not fair. Never was. Never will be. Attempts, by some Lefty Behemoth, to 'even up the balance' are just nuts.

 

[cryrst]

If DEI was applied by you in that way you would be failing its intentions.

It is intended to promote equal opportunities and fairness. Not provide advantage.

No employer is a social worker but all have a duty of care towards their employees.

I don’t argue that examples can be found where mistakes have been made and the pendulum pushed too far. When that happens correction is needed, but not the abandonment of the whole principle. Just a return to, and focus on, it.

You missed the key word which blows this out the water. Meritocracy!!!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You missed the key word which blows this out the water. Meritocracy!!!

That really is the key. A football club wouldn't employ a player just because it would be nice to have him there - why should anyone else? Most people would like to be highly paid players but guess what? They're not as good as those who are. That's not to deny anyone the opportunity but simply the reality.

 

[eaglesdare]

I get both sides of the arguments here.

While DEI can be used for good. In that it employs disabled people. Which I am all for btw as it's better to have them in the work force and paying taxes than sitting at home feeling sorry for themselves.

However, DEI can be problematic when implemented as rigid quotas that prioritise demographics like gender, sexual orientation, race, or immigration status etc... over qualifications and merit.

That said, many highly qualified individuals from diverse backgrounds deserve these opportunities, and true merit based hiring should naturally include them without forced mandates. The key is balancing genuine inclusion with competence to avoid unintended consequences.

 

[silvertop]

The report doesn't explicitly link the FAA controller's errors to DEI, but it confirms serious air traffic control failures exactly what Trump warned about when he flagged DEI risks to aviation safety right after the crash.

If DEI played no part, why not investigate it openly.

What?

In other words DEI is completely irrelevant.

Dubya did the same with the second gulf war. His speeches blended/confused references to Hussein and Alqede as one to the extent even college educated pilots thought they were giving payback for 9/11. Ironic given the only AQ presence in Iraq was in the Kurdish north who were mercilessly oppressed by the Iraqi government. That is, Iraq were accidental allies with the West on that conflict.and would have potentially worked closely with us if it were not for all that pesky oil.

 

[silvertop]

I get both sides of the arguments here.

While DEI can be used for good. In that it employs disabled people. Which I am all for btw as it's better to have them in the work force and paying taxes than sitting at home feeling sorry for themselves.

However, DEI can be problematic when implemented as rigid quotas that prioritise demographics like gender, sexual orientation, race, or immigration status etc... over qualifications and merit.

That said, many highly qualified individuals from diverse backgrounds deserve these opportunities, and true merit based hiring should naturally include them without forced mandates. The key is balancing genuine inclusion with competence to avoid unintended consequences.

Nothing to disagree here though. Good post.