Reform

All these perfect posters that never laughed about or used racist ( loosely put) alphabet or anti DEI language.
I cannot believe how they claim to be whiter than white. One of them is 80 years old. Do me a favour and pull the other one šŸ¤¦šŸ¤¦šŸ¤¦
 
cryrst said:
All these perfect posters that never laughed about or used racist ( loosely put) alphabet or anti DEI language.
I cannot believe how they claim to be whiter than white. One of them is 80 years old. Do me a favour and pull the other one šŸ¤¦šŸ¤¦šŸ¤¦
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You are missing the point completely.

Itā€™s obviously true that in our youth, when standards were very different, most of us would have said or done things we would not now.

Farage is different. For three reasons. Firstly, because he aspires to be PM. We donā€™t. Secondly, whatā€™s reported is a lot worse than anything I ever encountered. Thirdly, he doesnā€™t clearly state that his views have changed. He only claims he never meant things personally. Which is a very damning statement.
 
Willo said:
"Just lie" - I believed this was a serious debate.
I shall continue to support Britain's oldest and most successful political party.
I shall also continue to play a role in helping the Conservatives hold this shambolic Labour Government to account and to expose Reform and their knee-jerk reactions and outlandish pledges.
Reform might seem like a political oasis but it is a mirage.I shall continue to deride them with every fibre of my being.
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It doesn't matter how successful Reform may or may not be. They deserve their chance.

The Tories betrayed us.

Even now they support speech laws that make us a mockery with countries that have real right wings. The Tories introduced and enforced most of the 'woke' laws and regulations that they pretend to be against.

Their base are majority Cameron, May and Sunak fans.

You staying with them just means you prefer your 'bubble' to the harsh reality that much of your party's MP base is much more left wing than you are.

Maybe....and it's very much a maybe, if the Tories 'reform' to be more right wing than where Reform are... when Reform eventually come to government then there might be a chance of survival on the right.

But personally I think it's more likely the right of the party will be forced out and it'll become the 'centralist' party that it's always wanted to be since Blair.

It's the 'heir to Blair' party......Sunak and Hunt were literally fan boys for him.

The Tories deserve everything that it's getting.....Even today it just doesn't get it.
 
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Wisbech Eagle said:
You are missing the point completely.

Itā€™s obviously true that in our youth, when standards were very different, most of us would have said or done things we would not now.

Farage is different. For three reasons. Firstly, because he aspires to be PM. We donā€™t. Secondly, whatā€™s reported is a lot worse than anything I ever encountered. Thirdly, he doesnā€™t clearly state that his views have changed. He only claims he never meant things personally. Which is a very damning statement.
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The BBC woin't save Farage.

Everywhere he goes this will follow him, MPs will make hissing sounds when he speaks etc.

If he carries on it doesn't matter either.

It is downhill all the way.

šŸ˜Ž
 
Stirlingsays said:
It doesn't matter how successful Reform may or may not be. They deserve their chance.

The Tories betrayed us.

Even now they support speech laws that make us a mockery with countries that have real right wings. The Tories introduced and enforced most of the 'woke' laws and regulations that they pretend to be against.

Their base are majority Cameron, May and Sunak fans.

You staying with them just means you prefer your 'bubble' to the harsh reality that much of your party's MP base is much more left wing than you are.

Maybe....and it's very much a maybe, if the Tories 'reform' to be more right wing than where Reform are... when Reform eventually come to government then there might be a chance of survival on the right.

But personally I think it's more likely the right of the party will be forced out and it'll become the 'centralist' party that it's always wanted to be since Blair.

It's the 'heir to Blair' party......Sunak and Hunt were literally fan boys for him.

The Tories deserve everything that it's getting.....Even today it just doesn't get it.
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With the greatest of respect the general thrust of the allegations is a tornado of bilge and a gumbo of tripe.

I am proud to be a member of my party as we rebuild and renew after we lost the trust of the electorate.
Members like 'Yours Truly' play a pivotal role in holding this shambolic Government to account and developing a credible alternative that our country desperately needs.Our approach is simple, live within our means,cut wasteful spending,grow the economy and reduce taxes for those who keep the country going.

I could add far more but I am about get 'togged up' to enjoy some epicurean delights with my dear wife and some Conservative friends on my 73rd birthday !!
Have an enjoyable evening. šŸ‘ šŸ‘
 
Willo said:
With the greatest of respect the general thrust of the allegations is a tornado of bilge and a gumbo of tripe.

I am proud to be a member of my party as we rebuild and renew after we lost the trust of the electorate.
Members like 'Yours Truly' play a pivotal role in holding this shambolic Government to account and developing a credible alternative that our country desperately needs.Our approach is simple, live within our means,cut wasteful spending,grow the economy and reduce taxes for those who keep the country going.

I could add far more but I am about get 'togged up' to enjoy some epicurean delights with my dear wife and some Conservative friends on my 73rd birthday !!
Have an enjoyable evening. šŸ‘ šŸ‘
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No one on the right can really dislike you Willo.

I think you are in denial, but regardless hope you had an enjoyable evening.
 
steeleye20 said:
The BBC woin't save Farage.

Everywhere he goes this will follow him, MPs will make hissing sounds when he speaks etc.

If he carries on it doesn't matter either.

It is downhill all the way.

šŸ˜Ž
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You wish.

I do find all this rather funny from a man who extols the virtues of Jeremy Corbyn and Communism.
 
Seems to be a story out there about BBC makeup people supposedly spitting in makeup before applied to Farage prior to appearances.

Interesting to see if that pans out because if it's provable, then another shitstorm for the BBC.
 
Matov said:
Seems to be a story out there about BBC makeup people supposedly spitting in makeup before applied to Farage prior to appearances.

Interesting to see if that pans out because if it's provable, then another shitstorm for the BBC.
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Apparently there were "other bodily fluids" involved too. How delightful.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Apparently there were "other bodily fluids" involved too. How delightful.
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Claims are easy to make so there needs to be some real evidence on this for it to stick, but if it is true, then heads need to roll.
 
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