Tommy Robinson

Wisbech Eagle said:
He should go and speak to some of those living in the Arab villages to hear of the intimidation and violence directed at them.

Seeking to justify settlements that are regarded as illegal under international law by claiming the land was both unused and traditional is nonsense. There’s land everywhere that’s “unused”. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t belong to someone. When there are competing claims that have been heard and agreements made on compromises then those agreements must be honoured. Not just ignored.
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There is obviously two sides to the war.
Atrocities which were done by Hamas have given Isreal the green light to flatten large parts of Palestine.

Trump wants to turn it into a resort. That's offensive and bloody funny at the same time.

There is also apparently a lot of untapped gas and oil in Palestine too.

As I've said in previous posts, I'm not keen on Robinson involving himself in this struggle. But it's his business to do as he pleases.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I very much doubt that.

There is never any need to fit him up with anything. He is more than capable of breaking the law in a variety of ways and so thoroughly deserves everything that comes his way. Which won’t depend on Trump’s departure!

He may well jump ship before too long. At least that way he won’t be able to rabble rouse on our streets but just post videos to the faithful. The media can then ignore him and he can fade into obscurity.
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Only a fool thinks that it's about an individual. He would be replaced, in fact anyone with brains knows that it's going to get worse for your anti white politics as the demographic shifts, much as we have seen a reaction against anti white politics in the US.

It's your politics that is the problem.
 
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Tommy Yaxley Lennon Robinson Is a man who wants to effect change in this country by unelected means, I do not think he is stupid but he realises that he is unelectable and no political party will give him a home, so he tries to initiate change by non parlimentary means. He is not a democratic person so therefore should be treated with suspicion, inciting hatred between ethnicities ,he cannot intimidate people born in Britain it would be against the law so he decides to stir the immigration debate in a way reminiscent of Oswald Moseley the leader of the British Union of fascists a carbon copy of the Nazi Party which conducted a European Tour between 1939-1945 that costs millions of lives. So I am at the very least wary of this individual and can only imagine that he will follow in Moseley's foot steps being a traitor to this country during war time, not in any way someone to admire.
 
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beak said:
Tommy Yaxley Lennon Robinson Is a man who wants to effect change in this country by unelected means, I do not think he is stupid but he realises that he is unelectable and no political party will give him a home, so he tries to initiatechange by non parlimentary means. He is not a democratic person so therefore should be treated with suspicion, inciting hatred between ethnicities ,he cannot intimidate people born in Britain it would be against the law so he decides to stir the immigration debate in a way reminiiscent of Oswald Moseley the leader of the British Union of fascists a carbon copy of the Nazi Party which conducted a European Tour between 1939-1945 that costs millions of lives. So I am at the very least wary of this individual and can only imagine that he will follow in Moseleys foot steps being a traitor to this country during war time, not in any way someone to admire.
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Is it the fact that he helped bring Pakistani nonce gangs to justice.

Saving little girls. Is that what upsets you about him.

By your comments you miss this out.

He's an activist, he is supported by a large number of people in this country. That seems pretty democratic to me.

How does he incite hatred between communities? He left the EDL because of far right racists. He started the EDL Because muslims in his town center were protesting the return of dead british soldiers at their funerals. Obviously the police did nothing so he being the GREAT MAN HE IS, DID.

He is only interested in bringing people together. How can you do that with ever growing Muslim population. Do you not
see how they are affecting our towns and cities already

What he says about Islam not being compatible with our Christian culture is patently a fact. That does not mean he wants rid of brown faces as you probably think.

Comparing him to a Nazi like Mosely is embarrassing. People see through this stuff.
They know he is not a Nazi. You use this to try and win a debate, hilarious.

The public have woke up, you have not.

To use this slander just denigrates the atrocities of Nazi Germany.

My wife is black and my kids are obviously mixed race. This is one brown family that knows he ain't a racist. Plus my wife likes Trump and farage. Lol

You need to get our more mate.











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Stirlingsays said:
Only a fool thinks that it's about an individual. He would be replaced, in fact anyone with brains knows that it's going to get worse for your anti white politics as the demographic shifts, much as we have seen a reaction against anti white politics in the US.

It's your politics that is the problem.
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Only fools refer to anything as “anti-white”! It’s an appallingly stupid term which is grossly offensive to any real thinker.

When there is no such thing as a “white” race it’s impossible to have politics that oppose it. There are people with different shades of skin colours.

If you seek to campaign on behalf of groups you believe are disadvantaged then you must firstly describe them accurately if you are to be taken seriously. Describing people solely by their notional skin colour is what our racist ancestors used to do, and white supremacists continue to do. We have moved on from that, or at least most of us have.

That we have a US President and a bunch of his sycophants using these terms is no excuse for us to.

My politics are the only way forward. Yours take us backward. Mine presents a long hard path, but one that’s ultimately worthwhile. Yours takes us to conflict and ultimately disaster.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Only fools refer to anything as “anti-white”! It’s an appallingly stupid term which is grossly offensive to any real thinker.

When there is no such thing as a “white” race it’s impossible to have politics that oppose it. There are people with different shades of skin colours.

If you seek to campaign on behalf of groups you believe are disadvantaged then you must firstly describe them accurately if you are to be taken seriously. Describing people solely by their notional skin colour is what our racist ancestors used to do, and white supremacists continue to do. We have moved on from that, or at least most of us have.

That we have a US President and a bunch of his sycophants using these terms is no excuse for us to.

My politics are the only way forward. Yours take us backward. Mine presents a long hard path, but one that’s ultimately worthwhile. Yours takes us to conflict and ultimately disaster.
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And there you go using the term "white supremacist ". I thought you said there is no white race. Hilarious.

I have a term you might like to look up.
COGNITIVE DISSONANCE
 
Mattconrov said:
Is it the fact that he helped bring Pakistani nonce gangs to justice.

Saving little girls. Is that what upsets you about him.

By your comments you miss this out.

He's an activist, he is supported by a large number of people in this country. That seems pretty democratic to me.

How does he incite hatred between communities? He left the EDL because of far right racists. He started the EDL Because muslims in his town center were protesting the return of dead british soldiers at their funerals. Obviously the police did nothing so he being the GREAT MAN HE IS, DID.

He is only interested in bringing people together. How can you do that with ever growing Muslim population. Do you not
see how they are affecting our towns and cities already

What he says about Islam not being compatible with our Christian culture is patently a fact. That does not mean he wants rid of brown faces as you probably think.

Comparing him to a Nazi like Mosely is embarrassing. People see through this stuff.
They know he is not a Nazi. You use this to try and win a debate, hilarious.

The public have woke up, you have not.

To use this slander just denigrates the atrocities of Nazi Germany.

My wife is black and my kids are obviously mixed race. This is one brown family that knows he ain't a racist. Plus my wife likes Trump and farage. Lol

You need to get our more mate.











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At what stage did I say that? As for going out I am out and about very frequently.
 
beak said:
At what stage did I say that? As for going out I am out and about very frequently
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What are you referring to? I see, the highlighted sentence. That was the point I was making Einstein. You didn't mention it.

I was being sarcastic. Lol

Thank you for clarification of your terrific social life.

What I actually meant, was you should seek to talk to people with different opinions to yours. Then you will see there are many.
 
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beak said:
Tommy Yaxley Lennon Robinson Is a man who wants to effect change in this country by unelected means,
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same as Labour and the Tories then ?

beak said:
reminiscent of Oswald Moseley the leader of the British Union of fascists a carbon copy of the Nazi Party
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those AntiSemites ? White supremicists ? Homophobes ? they are the same as Tommy ? sure thing, mate. Try to at least engage with the facts of the argument before you go spouting off, good lad.
 
Mattconrov said:
Is it the fact that he helped bring Pakistani nonce gangs to justice.

Saving little girls. Is that what upsets you about him.

By your comments you miss this out.

He's an activist, he is supported by a large number of people in this country. That seems pretty democratic to me.

How does he incite hatred between communities? He left the EDL because of far right racists. He started the EDL Because muslims in his town center were protesting the return of dead british soldiers at their funerals. Obviously the police did nothing so he being the GREAT MAN HE IS, DID.

He is only interested in bringing people together. How can you do that with ever growing Muslim population. Do you not
see how they are affecting our towns and cities already

What he says about Islam not being compatible with our Christian culture is patently a fact. That does not mean he wants rid of brown faces as you probably think.

Comparing him to a Nazi like Mosely is embarrassing. People see through this stuff.
They know he is not a Nazi. You use this to try and win a debate, hilarious.

The public have woke up, you have not.

To use this slander just denigrates the atrocities of Nazi Germany.

My wife is black and my kids are obviously mixed race. This is one brown family that knows he ain't a racist. Plus my wife likes Trump and farage. Lol

You need to get our more mate.











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That is your mistake and probably Y-L’s too.

We don’t have a Christian culture. We have a Christian heritage. A heritage that’s very precious and must be preserved but not something that controls our daily lives.

If we are to bring all our citizens, whatever their skin colour, religion or personal heritage, into our circle of respect then we must start by being honest. Not all Muslims are radicalised with a hatred for others at their core. Neither are all non-believers or believers in other religions upright, law abiding people with love for everyone at their core.

We must classify the evil together and the good together as a fundamental principle and stop categorising people in arbitrary ways, like their beliefs or lack of them.

That we have problems with groups who currently don’t share our values is clearly true. That has to change. Those who allow their interpretation of their beliefs to commit unlawful acts must be interred and re-educated until it stops. Those of school age must be taught our values exclusively and any radical teaching completely eradicated. Ruthlessly.

We are now a secular country in all but name and, as I have suggested before, we need to accept and then confirm it. Religion must play no role in public life, or in education. It needs to become an entirely private matter. Only then can we demand the same from everyone.

This would take generations to fully complete, so I wouldn’t ever witness it, but we could start now. The problem is that no political party is yet even talking about it. Indeed the Labour Party, in reacting to Reform, appear to be heading the other way. So it seems likely to get worse before it gets better.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Only fools refer to anything as “anti-white”! It’s an appallingly stupid term which is grossly offensive to any real thinker.

When there is no such thing as a “white” race it’s impossible to have politics that oppose it. There are people with different shades of skin colours.

If you seek to campaign on behalf of groups you believe are disadvantaged then you must firstly describe them accurately if you are to be taken seriously. Describing people solely by their notional skin colour is what our racist ancestors used to do, and white supremacists continue to do. We have moved on from that, or at least most of us have.

That we have a US President and a bunch of his sycophants using these terms is no excuse for us to.

My politics are the only way forward. Yours take us backward. Mine presents a long hard path, but one that’s ultimately worthwhile. Yours takes us to conflict and ultimately disaster.
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"It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense." [1984, Orwell]
 
Mattconrov said:
And there you go using the term "white supremacist ". I thought you said there is no white race. Hilarious.

I have a term you might like to look up.
COGNITIVE DISSONANCE
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I don’t use the term “white supremacist” any more than I use “white race”!

I am just referring to those that do.

There’s not any cognitive dissonance involved in my approach, although there could be in yours!
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I don’t use the term “white supremacist” any more than I use “white race”!

I am just referring to those that do.

There’s not any cognitive dissonance involved in my approach, although there could be in yours!
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Where does that leave Kehinde Andrews who is a Professor of Black Studies and whose book is called The Psychosis of Whiteness.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Having not read the book I cannot say.

It maybe that he is using shorthand terms that enable him to make the same kind of points that I am.

Describing “Whiteness” as a psychosis does tend to suggest that.
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Yes, it may be that he is. It's also possible that Tommy Robinson is using shorthand to make the same kind of points as well.
 
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