Tommy Robinson

[Mattconrov]

Why 1997? We have witnessed influx before that, going right back to the Romans and Vikings. The problem is that data for those isn’t available so all we have are estimates.

That said, we can agree that the % of us who were born abroad is higher today than it’s ever been before. That though is no reason at all not to expect those people, but more especially their successors, to become more and more British as they attend schools and absorb our culture. To say nothing about intermarriage!

That there are some problems is obvious, which is why we need to be proactive to ensure it happens.

If it was possible to just “turn them around” it would have been done years ago. We are bound by legal obligations and conventions. We have no alternative other than to cooperate with our European neighbours to tackle the issue of the trafficking gangs at source.

It might be frustrating but it’s the reality. So we need to develop realistic responses within the UK. Of course illegal immigration gets all the headlines but most immigration is legal, much of it to fill jobs that would otherwise go unfulfilled. Many of these people will become citizens and continue being useful members of our society, paying their taxes and eventually becoming one of us. Just as they always have.

If you are being invaded you deal with it. End of story. The real truth is they want to flood the country with these types.

As you can see from Islamabad in Farnham (my right wing theory). Is this how they become more British.

You say we need immigration to fill jobs etc.
True we have become over reliant on it. Especially NHS.

it's always an African person helping a special needs person, walking down the road.

I'm not ignorant to that. My wife's African, I get the good that's done.

But we don't have enough houses or money being paid out. Plus the well documented cultural issues.

Those cultural issues don't apply to my home. My wife's a Christian. Probably why it's all good here.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Islamabad, Tilford - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I hate using wiki as evidence. Make your own mind up.

Residential housing etc etc.

Why do you gaslight like this.

It's called Islamabad. It bloody is, isn't it?

Wiki is fine. Providing you actually read and understand it. Which it appears you haven’t!

These are the first words in the Wiki entry. Which say precisely what I did:-

“Islamabad, in the village of Tilford, Surrey, England, is an estate which serves as the headquarters of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.” It goes on to elaborate “Islamabad is 10.4 hectares in area, where four hectares are used for headquarter buildings, offices and residential housing.”

It’s not a village. It’s an estate within a village. I live on an estate, within a village. The estate has its own separate name. 4 hectares to accommodate HQ buildings and offices plus some residential housing isn’t a village.

Non of which is really anything more than semantics. What’s important are the values they promote.

 

[Mattconrov]

Wiki is fine. Providing you actually read and understand it. Which it appears you haven’t!

These are the first words in the Wiki entry. Which say precisely what I did:-

“Islamabad, in the village of Tilford, Surrey, England, is an estate which serves as the headquarters of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.” It goes on to elaborate “Islamabad is 10.4 hectares in area, where four hectares are used for headquarter buildings, offices and residential housing.”

It’s not a village. It’s an estate within a village. I live on an estate, within a village. The estate has its own separate name. 4 hectares to accommodate HQ buildings and offices plus some residential housing isn’t a village.

Non of which is really anything more than semantics. What’s important are the values they promote.

Ok. Muslims are building estates with names such as Islamabad in large areas of country . It has hq buildings and residential housing. But don't worry it's not a village.

You happy now?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

If you are being invaded you deal with it. End of story. The real truth is they want to flood the country with these types.

As you can see from Islamabad in Farnham (my right wing theory). Is this how they become more British.

You say we need immigration to fill jobs etc.
True we have become over reliant on it. Especially NHS.

it's always an African person helping a special needs person, walking down the road.

I'm not ignorant to that. My wife's African, I get the good that's done.

But we don't have enough houses or money being paid out. Plus the well documented cultural issues.

Those cultural issues don't apply to my home. My wife's a Christian. Probably why it's all good here.

Who are “they”?

Let me guess. It’s the politicians! Or the elites!

We haven’t become over reliant on immigration. We need immigration. What we have allowed to happen is allow too many of those born here to become reliant on benefits.

Everybody should work unless they are physically or mentally incapable. Everyone can do something. Retirement should be gradual. We have been far too soft with ourselves for decades.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Ok. Muslims are building estates with names such as Islamabad in large areas of country . It has hq buildings and residential housing. But don't worry it's not a village.

You happy now?

Was before! It’s you who is getting upset!

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

The residents of Savile Town would disagree about the replacement theory.

I don't read his s***, but I guarantee he used the phrase 'great replacement theory'. 🙂


I really don't know why people continue to engage with him. He is blind to reality. A hopeless case.

He doesn't understand demographics or simple extrapolations. It's pathetic.

 

[Mattconrov]

Was before! It’s you who is getting upset!

I was being humorous (I thought so) my wife occasionally does. Probably the African sense of Humour. Lol

 

[Mattconrov]

I don't read his s***, but I guarantee he used the phrase 'great replacement theory'. 🙂


I really don't know why people continue to engage with him. He is blind to reality. A hopeless case.

He doesn't understand demographics or simple extrapolations. It's pathetic.

You've done enough work with Wisbech. I'll take over for a little while. But not for long.

He is all the things you say. So why do we even bother to post anything to anyone.

I rarely do post. However I read holmesdale.net every day and I enjoy reading the comments.
So it's only right that I should contribute.

Wisbech has his opinion. In some ways I think there is common ground. But it's hard work. The farnham thing in an earlier post.

His response was brilliant.

FYI, he mentioned the great replacement theory.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

You've done enough work with Wisbech. I'll take over for a little while. But not for long.

He is all the things you say. So why do we even bother to post anything to anyone.

I rarely do post. However I read holmesdale.net every day and I enjoy reading the comments.
So it's only right that I should contribute.

Wisbech has his opinion. In some ways I think there is common ground. But it's hard work. The farnham thing in an earlier post.

His response was brilliant.

FYI, he mentioned the great replacement theory.

🙂 I knew it.

We both hate religion, but that's about it. I'm not even convinced he is human.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

FYI, he mentioned the great replacement theory.

theory ? There are still many religious Loons who call Evolution 'only a theory, lacking in supporting data'.

when is it a theory, and when is it a fact ?

 

[Mattconrov]

Who are “they”?

Let me guess. It’s the politicians! Or the elites!

We haven’t become over reliant on immigration. We need immigration. What we have allowed to happen is allow too many of those born here to become reliant on benefits.

Everybody should work unless they are physically or mentally incapable. Everyone can do something. Retirement should be gradual. We have been far too soft with ourselves for decades.

Over reliant on benefits. Yep. Like the hardworking illegal nonce cases being feed and given bank cards in 4 star hotels.

 

[Mattconrov]

🙂 I knew it.

We both hate religion, but that's about it. I'm not even convinced he is human.

I've often thought he might be a an A I bot.
I'm not even joking. The establishment covering all bases. Lol

 

[Mattconrov]

theory ? There are still many religious Loons who call Evolution 'only a theory, lacking in supporting data'.

when is it a theory, and when is it a fact ?

I heard a good explanation for what is truth.
Truth is something that doesn't change.
Maybe the rest is opinion and Evolution

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Truth is something that doesn't change.

Truth is based upon evidence, and can be attacked regularly and if it is true, it will defend itself.

The Great Replacement Theory. You could easily find a thousand photos that support the theory. Can the average Lefty find a thousand different photos to argue against you ?

 

[beak]

Over reliant on benefits. Yep. Like the hardworking illegal nonce cases being feed and given bank cards in 4 star hotels.

Now that really is inhumane!

 

[Stirlingsays]

theory ? There are still many religious Loons who call Evolution 'only a theory, lacking in supporting data'.

when is it a theory, and when is it a fact ?

Theory means something else in science from what it means in common usage.

 

[Stirlingsays]

You've done enough work with Wisbech. I'll take over for a little while. But not for long.

He is all the things you say. So why do we even bother to post anything to anyone.

I rarely do post. However I read holmesdale.net every day and I enjoy reading the comments.
So it's only right that I should contribute.

Wisbech has his opinion. In some ways I think there is common ground. But it's hard work. The farnham thing in an earlier post.

His response was brilliant.

FYI, he mentioned the great replacement theory.

No common ground with me, that's for certain.

The guy encompasses a lot of why the country has declined and will continue to.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You know I have so much trouble getting into work and town. All I keep doing is bumping into these white supremacists. They are everywhere. Under my bed too.

Please point out names and evidence.
The kkk are an embarrassing mess only a handful around still.

Yes we have a few white nationalists here. But not in any great numbers.

If there were so many racists in this and USA then they wouldn't come here in such numbers.

It seems to me, most of the open racism is directed towards white people. You'll like that comment I bet. Lol


We do have a few people who love to use the words black power. Funny, I don't remember you ever referring to them.

There you go again with the white saviour complex. "Freeing people from the chains of their labels". People don't need you for that.

You used the word chains. Lol

As I didn’t speculate on the numbers, only that they exist, which you acknowledge, I no idea why you are getting so wound up!

All racism is unacceptable, whoever is its source or target. People need to learn to respect people as people and reject all arbitrary considerations. I criticise any inappropriate terminology whenever it is used positively. Which some are here, and some aren’t.

People are restricted, or chained, by the labels that others attach to them. Whether that’s racism, sexism or any other aspect other than their character. I’m glad it makes you feel uncomfortable, because you now know how it must feel.

 

[cryrst]

As I didn’t speculate on the numbers, only that they exist, which you acknowledge, I no idea why you are getting so wound up!

All racism is unacceptable, whoever is its source or target. People need to learn to respect people as people and reject all arbitrary considerations. I criticise any inappropriate terminology whenever it is used positively. Which some are here, and some aren’t.

People are restricted, or chained, by the labels that others attach to them. Whether that’s racism, sexism or any other aspect other than their character. I’m glad it makes you feel uncomfortable, because you now know how it must feel.

He is married to a black woman and you seriously think he’s racist. Although everyone who doesn’t agree with your mantra is so nothing new !

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

theory ? There are still many religious Loons who call Evolution 'only a theory, lacking in supporting data'.

when is it a theory, and when is it a fact ?

That’s easy and very obvious.

When there’s proof that’s accepted by a consensus of reputable expert opinion.

Not when it’s proposed by a bunch of “loons”.

So what connects the dismissal of evolution and the Great Replacement Theory?

Could it be that both are proposed by “loons”?