Flags.........& Politics.

PalazioVecchio said:
incorrect.

the overwhelming majority of Ireland voted for independence in 1919. To use your logic.......Imagine if the Brexit vote managed to carve up England into Regions leaving the EU and regions staying. Yorkshire going one way, and London the Other.
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"Northern Ireland was created to address the deep political and religious divisions on the island of Ireland, primarily to protect the Protestant-majority community in the northeast that wished to remain part of the United Kingdom. The partition of Ireland in 1921 was intended as a compromise to balance the demands of Irish nationalists seeking independence with the concerns of unionists loyal to the British Crown."

They got their independence, but just like Hamas, it wasn't acceptable. Vile and as oppressive to the people that voted against it as you consider British rule to have been. If you are Northern Irish catholic then you could've just moved.

It wasn't a referendum JAT
 
Spindle said:
If you are Northern Irish catholic then you could've just moved.
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what ? like away from a place your family lived for thousands of years ? you sound like Mountbatten doing the genocidal bodge of Partitioning India/Pakistan.

sounds like the 400 AD Anglo-Saxons calling the Celtic Britons 'foreigners'. "why dont those Celts all just go back to where they came from"


anyway...........flags.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
what ? like away from a place your family lived for thousands of years ? you sound like Mountbatten doing the genocidal bodge of Partitioning India/Pakistan.

sounds like the 400 AD Anglo-Saxons calling the Celtic Britons 'foreigners'. "why dont those Celts all just go back to where they came from"


anyway...........flags.
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Then accept that you lost a vote to a majority instead of turning lives upsidedown for decades
 
Spindle said:
Meanwhile, flags are distracting for motorists, but replacing them with signs of love aren't

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Signs of kindness put up along Nottingham road in place of flags - BBC News

It is not clear who put up the signs, which have appeared on lamp-posts along a road in Nottingham.
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Just like anything these days, there are acceptable left wing flags and unacceptable right wing flags. They could even be the same flag it's got that absurd. Watch for the left wing George Flag with a heart in the middle. I'll give it about a week.
 
Spindle said:
Oh sure. This just happened one night. There was nothing prior whatsoever
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Prior ? a ton of War-crimes, colonisation, genocide, and invasion ....is that the Prior you mean ? or is it the Apartheid society ? two tier is not only a recent phenomenon.


anyway..........Flags.

here is a nice colourful UVF one for yourself Spindle. Its the same as the IRA, two cheeks of the same murderous Sectarian arse. Happily most people in N.I. have turned their back on fanatical nutters.
"he started it, he is the nasty fv.cker , not me" is a mantra you also hear at the school playground and in Israel/Palestine.

Ulster Volunteer Force Flag | Victor-Stewart Enterprises

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ASCPFC said:
there are acceptable left wing flags and unacceptable right wing flags. They could even be the same flag it's got that absurd.
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True. We now have politicians pulling down the Union Jack. Down off of every lamp-post. And a day later ? the same politicians are standing at the Cenotaph. Paying their respects to the Union Jack.

Politics has turned into a Monty Python.
 
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If some people associate the Flag of St George or the Union Jack with right wing extremism then it is the fault of the left.

Our flags should represent our country, we do not all think the same so I do not expect that a person on the left holds values about this country that are the same as mine, and that is fine.

The left however abandoned our flags to the so called extreme right and now demonise it. What they should have done is waved those same flags at their rallies and demos with pride and told the rest of us what those core value are for them.

After all they love the EU flag and that is made of of some historically god awful countries.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
Prior ? a ton of War-crimes, colonisation, genocide, and invasion ....is that the Prior you mean ? or is it the Apartheid society ? two tier is not only a recent phenomenon.


anyway..........Flags.

here is a nice colourful UVF one for yourself Spindle. Its the same as the IRA, two cheeks of the same murderous Sectarian arse. Happily most people in N.I. have turned their back on fanatical nutters.
"he started it, he is the nasty fv.cker , not me" is a mantra you also hear at the school playground and in Israel/Palestine.

Ulster Volunteer Force Flag | Victor-Stewart Enterprises

victor-stewart.com victor-stewart.com
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You are a very sad man. You pine about problems that people had a century ago, and pine for the violence and poverty of a generation ago. And why? So you can all be in one Ireland and YOU can be the oppressor in the minority. (PS, that's what Apartheid actually is). You'd actually turn the clock back to fighting over it, to ruin the place from where it's recovered - you are no different to anyone in the Al-Quassam brigades - it's vile.

Let's take your logic, England should just trample Scotland and abolish it as a nation, and Wales. f*** em, we're a minority there but f*** em, let's do it by force because I'm still crying over what happened 700 years ago.

You awful man.
 
Badger11 said:
If some people associate the Flag of St George or the Union Jack with right wing extremism then it is the fault of the left.

Our flags should represent our country, we do not all think the same so I do not expect that a person on the left holds values about this country that are the same as mine, and that is fine.

The left however abandoned our flags to the so called extreme right and now demonise it. What they should have done is waved those same flags at their rallies and demos with pride and told the rest of us what those core value are for them.

After all they love the EU flag and that is made of of some historically god awful countries.
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What a ridiculous assertion!

It’s as bad as Trump in the USA inventing “radical lefties” and using it to try justify authoritarian actions.

Hijacking the national flag to make political points is just wrong. Own it and stop trying to blame others.

If the left did it you would be all over it, so try being genuinely patriotic and rise above such facile, childish point scoring and show some dignity by condemning it. By whoever does it.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
What a ridiculous assertion!

It’s as bad as Trump in the USA inventing “radical lefties” and using it to try justify authoritarian actions.

Hijacking the national flag to make political points is just wrong. Own it and stop trying to blame others.

If the left did it you would be all over it, so try being genuinely patriotic and rise above such facile, childish point scoring and show some dignity by condemning it. By whoever does it.
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But labour did
 

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Wisbech Eagle said:
He’s a politician! Who is interested in brilliant ideas. Even the ones others think are stupid. He has used quite a lot of them already. Changing his name to Jack and climbing beanstalks would appeal to him. Reform being a Pantomime act already.
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He wouldn't be interested in an idea intended to benefit Cornish farmers whose council would surely have achieved independence by the time of the next election. By the way isn't the Cornish flag adopted by those who want independence?
 
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