Crystal Palace vs. Sunderland match thread

[PatrickA]

It is a tad disappointing that we have played 2 games at Home in the PL this season and failed to win either.
We only narrow defeated Fredrikstad who are considered minnows when compared with the elite teams.

I think this is fair comment, but the true assessment can be made in a few weeks, when hopefully Wharton, Sarr and Nketiah return and Pino and Uche have had more time with the squad and set up.
Hopefully we'll have plenty of options and will not have to rely on Devenny and Kamada being played out of postion, or Mateta having to play every minute .

 

[JRW2]

Horrific performance from the ref. Just didn't get the game at all and his pedanticness on where the throws were taken despite not being able to see the awful playacting and diving from the Sunderlands players. Gave them every single petty foul which they lapped up every time.
Why do we always get the worst refs at Selhurst?

I for one (maybe the only one) was pleased to see that. If players steal yards, they're taking an unfair - and for all I know illegal* - advantage, particularly when, as in this case, they have a long throw specialist. And I was equally pleased to see the Sunderland goalie getting a card for refusing to take a free kick from the right spot.

* No doubt someone on this site will be able to quote the relevant rule.

 

[park the bus]

At the business end, players who were integral and practiced in OG's tactical approach were out, Eze gone, and Sarr injured. Add Wharton into the mix and the newcomers will clearly take a few games to get fully up to speed, but from what we've seen things will be just fine.

 

[Inquisitive Aquila]

Hughes has been a solid player for 2 seasons now and it has been proven him and wharton are the best pair in middle.

Not sure what games you are watching.

Doucoure has not been seen for a long time and is not the same player.

Today was very poor and its nothing to do with manager it's the players.

Not sure Hughes is first choice. Kamada was preferred in the semi final, final and community shield.

 

[silvertop]

Liverpool currently being held by Burnley.

Frustrating and goalless.

Familiar?

Could change of course. But this kind of result is common esrly doors before the clocks change.

 

[Eagleman13]

I for one (maybe the only one) was pleased to see that. If players steal yards, they're taking an unfair - and for all I know illegal* - advantage, particularly when, as in this case, they have a long throw specialist. And I was equally pleased to see the Sunderland goalie getting a card for refusing to take a free kick from the right spot.

* No doubt someone on this site will be able to quote the relevant rule.

You are correct(ish). Rule of thumb is, a ref will usually allow 5yds further on AND back, player goes further, ref blows whistle & motions for Player back to original spot, player transgressed again ref whistle & warn, player ignores, ref whistles & then either turns throw to oppo or books player.

 

[ASCPFC]

Liverpool currently being held by Burnley.

Frustrating and goalless.

Familiar?

Could change of course. But this kind of result is common esrly doors before the clocks change.

Surely they can get a penalty.

 

[ASCPFC]

Surely they can get a penalty.

Oh

 

[palace_in_frogland]

Oh

Are you Doris Stokes in disguise AS?

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Ollie found a copy of Roy's booklet "0-0 - The Sure Fire Way To Success" hidden away at the back of his desk and has been studying it with interest.

At least we look like we could score a goal in a glasner 0-0, under Roy sometimes, especially at Selhurst it was painful to watch, that old football saying of we could’ve played till midnight and not scored under Roy.

 

[dreamwaverider]

At least we look like we could score a goal in a glasner 0-0, under Roy sometimes, especially at Selhurst it was painful to watch, that old football saying of we could’ve played till midnight and not scored under Roy.

Agreed. I found yesterday game very entertaining. Pino is going to be really useful as is Uche. Some of our passing movements were unreal, and on another day it could easily have been 2-0.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Agreed. I found yesterday game very entertaining. Pino is going to be really useful as is Uche. Some of our passing movements were unreal, and on another day it could easily have been 2-0.

yes we battered them second half after a slow first. And Pino looks lively and had Chances which is a good sign despite him not scoring. Uche looked mobile and sharp as well

 

[park the bus]

At least we look like we could score a goal in a glasner 0-0, under Roy sometimes, especially at Selhurst it was painful to watch, that old football saying of we could’ve played till midnight and not scored under Roy.

Their keeper had one of those days where he stopped everything, another day it could have been 3, frustrating, as they offered very little. Nevertheless the new recruits look very decent and I expect us to kick on.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Their keeper had one of those days where he stopped everything, another day it could have been 3, frustrating, as they offered very little. Nevertheless the new recruits look very decent and I expect us to kick on.

Actually you saying that, from our view up the other end in the Whitehorse, that save where he just instinctively through his arm out point blank looked like a brilliant save from our end, but when I see it again later on TV, it just hit him, as you say, he had one of those days, another day that flies in the back of the net

 

[ASCPFC]

Are you Doris Stokes in disguise AS?

I've no idea on the legitimacy of the penalty but it's not that hard a call with Liverpool etc when they need a goal to win.

 

[grumpymort]

Not sure Hughes is first choice. Kamada was preferred in the semi final, final and community shield.

OG confirmed Hughes is managing some issues.

Kamada works better in his natural position higher up with less defense duties in critical areas.

 

[adelaar]

I for one (maybe the only one) was pleased to see that. If players steal yards, they're taking an unfair - and for all I know illegal* - advantage, particularly when, as in this case, they have a long throw specialist. And I was equally pleased to see the Sunderland goalie getting a card for refusing to take a free kick from the right spot.

* No doubt someone on this site will be able to quote the relevant rule.

I agree it was good, but it's a bit like going to order a big mac meal and getting a diet coke with it. You're there to make decisions to the best of your ability, and being good at something very low down the priority list whilst blowing or not blowing incorrectly practically the whole game just makes it even more confusing.
I still cannot fathom:
First half the defender charged into the back of Pino, for which he needed treatment, no foul given.
Roefs saved well from Mateta with his shoulder, he came to gather it second time and fell to the floor as if being poleaxed by the Palace player standing near him. There was the ref to blow immediately for a foul to the shock of everyone else in the stadium.
I could count ten more similar incidences in the game.

 

[sprites]

Not sure Hughes is first choice. Kamada was preferred in the semi final, final and community shield.

Hughes has been so good that if he's not first choice, he's genuinely sleeping with OG's wife or something.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You are correct(ish). Rule of thumb is, a ref will usually allow 5yds further on AND back, player goes further, ref blows whistle & motions for Player back to original spot, player transgressed again ref whistle & warn, player ignores, ref whistles & then either turns throw to oppo or books player.

Why is that though Eagleman? A long throw can be a pretty potent weapon and five yards up the line can make a big difference. Of course a yard doesn't usually make much difference but we've all seen players being allowed to creep further and further up the pitch until the throw is taken a long way from where the ball went out
My view is that players are hardwired into trying to gain every possible advantage so will always try to nick some distance if they can.