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Wisbech Eagle said:
That’s beyond my knowledge. You will need to do your own research. I have gas in my own house but the engineers are the ones who have to ensure standards are met.

I don’t have gas connected to my rental properties. I have told you that many times. Are you getting forgetful? Dementia is an awful disease.
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Nope. Gas engineers service appliances and if they find unsafe appliances they can recommend you get it sorted. They isolate and label the appliance and can isolate the meter. Then write an at risk or in some cases immediately dangerous notice. If they suspect the owner/ user will reinstate it. They should call and report to transco who will cap or even remove the meter. If stupid people don’t believe them and turn the meter or appliance back on and get hurt or even die the evidence is there in writing. If the owner wishes for safety a request to cap the meter it can be done by the engineer.
Exceptions will be an uncontrolled gas leak where the engineer will use their authority and isolate and cap the service without comeback which will never be seen as an overstep of their authority.
The standards are set at a higher point being a division of hmg in some capacity.
It’s all in the IGUPE documents.
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DanH said:
It’s almost like the guy who runs the company made some sort of announcement this week that he was going to concentrate on actually running his business and step away from politics which was damaging the brand.
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It's almost like the money men have decided "forgive and forget" is the way to go. They've sold their shares at one price, won their brownie points then bought them back at a lower price a week later and everyone's happy with the profit made.
It's a good job that the Heads of gun companies don't get involved in politics or their morally unimpeachable businesses would be in trouble.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
It's almost like the money men have decided "forgive and forget" is the way to go. They've sold their shares at one price, won their brownie points then bought them back at a lower price a week later and everyone's happy with the profit made.
It's a good job that the Heads of gun companies don't get involved in politics or their morally unimpeachable businesses would be in trouble.
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The large majority of ‘investors’ are pensions funds and investment vehicles, not individuals who act with a singular conscience. But consumers are. And consumer demand is way down and unlikely to fully recover due to the damaged Musk brand. And that will still make it a less popular (and therefore less valuable) stock in short term at least.

The tanking of the Tesla stock was always going to happen, as was the inevitable Musk change in focus and slight bounce back in share price. It’s still way down in the year. I’ll be surprised if it fully recovers any time soon.
 
Jimenez said:
Actually fewer states do this & there is probably as much chlorine in a chicken than there is in a bag of pre prepared salad you'd pick up from Waitrose. It seems in RFK we actually are at long last going to be cutting down on dyes, additives & other unnecessary added stuff
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Many additives are essential for food safety and security. We couldn’t feed the world without them. Gone are the days when we ate directly from field to table, we preserve and consume, rather than go from feast to famine. It’s the safety assessments of them that’s the issue and there are questionable standards in the USA. That though is totally separate from farming practices which prioritise commercial considerations over the health and well being of the consumer. RFK has some weird ideas which aren’t based on science but seemingly on personal prejudices.
 
cryrst said:
Nope. Gas engineers service appliances and if they find unsafe appliances they can recommend you get it sorted. They isolate and label the appliance and can isolate the meter. Then write an at risk or in some cases immediately dangerous notice. If they suspect the owner/ user will reinstate it. They should call and report to transco who will cap or even remove the meter. If stupid people don’t believe them and turn the meter or appliance back on and get hurt or even die the evidence is there in writing. If the owner wishes for safety a request to cap the meter it can be done by the engineer.
Exceptions will be an uncontrolled gas leak where the engineer will use their authority and isolate and cap the service without comeback which will never be seen as an overstep of their authority.
The standards are set at a higher point being a division of hmg in some capacity.
It’s all in the IGUPE documents.
Just to clarify!
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Thanks for the expert summary.

As I said this is not an area of expertise for me so I rely on others who are, in my case the service engineers, to advise me.

The main point remains. I only have gas in my own home. There is none in my rental properties so I have no responsibilities for gas safety there. Something I have said before.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Thanks for the expert summary.

As I said this is not an area of expertise for me so I rely on others who are, in my case the service engineers, to advise me.

The main point remains. I only have gas in my own home. There is none in my rental properties so I have no responsibilities for gas safety there. Something I have said before.
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Actually it wasn’t as a dig for once. It may help others to understand that responsibility is with them for their own safety after they have the information. Please believe the engineer as I know there are bad ones but mostly good. We are very highly regulated and even schoolboy errors can put us in jail.
It costs a lot of time, money and effort to get accreditation and kitted out with the correct tools and losing the accreditation does happen.
 
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