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US Politics

Stirlingsays said:
Wouldn't that equate to hating capitalism? I understand hating unfettered capitalism but even though I'm a critic of the neoliberal version of capitalism that exists in Europe today - a system where the international markets effectively control nation states - it's not a hatred for capitalism itself....as what are we comparing it too?

The oft quoted Churchill comment on democracy also relates here.....we can pick holes in capitalism for sure and Marx did a good job of that, the issue comes when you compare it to other systems.....which typically seem to end in a pile of skulls and/or poverty much more readily....As Marx's later enthusiastic system creators proved.
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Our version of capitalism, certainly.

Capitalism as an overarching concept - no, it's achievements are clear to see.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Our version of capitalism, certainly.

Capitalism as an overarching concept - no, it's achievements are clear to see.
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I'd agree that capitalism went haywire and remains so.....a state of affairs where the vast majority of young people can't afford to buy homes and are left with unpayable debt piles from previous generations and are told by the system to consume but own nothing is utterly elite driven and unacceptable....that should be whether we are coming at it from the right, left or whatever.
 
A trade deal with Trump is a huge error, typical of the UK.

It will be political and on his terms, we have no problems with our trade with them, free trade is actually not having a trade deal, commonly stuck years in international courts.

The UK should divorce the declining USA amicably, let's just be friends.


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steeleye20 said:
A trade deal with Trump is a huge error, typical of the UK.

It will be political and on his terms, we have no problems with our trade with them, free trade is actually not having a trade deal, commonly stuck years in international courts.

The UK should divorce the declining USA amicably, let's just be friends.


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One that annoys me is buying US military equipment. We should make our own and loads of it.
Then make some cheaper versions for export and US defence companies can do one.
 
steeleye20 said:
A trade deal with Trump is a huge error, typical of the UK.

It will be political and on his terms, we have no problems with our trade with them, free trade is actually not having a trade deal, commonly stuck years in international courts.

The UK should divorce the declining USA amicably, let's just be friends.


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This guy is living in a fantasy world.

So is this idea that you can just do without 20 percent of your trade.....Considering how much you whined like hell over Brexit that just tells me your operating your politics purely on feelings Steely. It would be handing the next election to Reform without a fight.....So it wouldn't happen even if Starmer preferred it.
 
ASCPFC said:
One that annoys me is buying US military equipment. We should make our own and loads of it.
Then make some cheaper versions for export and US defence companies can do one.
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I agree, but we lost all that as a consequence of WW2 and becoming a client debtor state......America did financially very well in that war and took over.

Which we were raised to celebrate.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
I hate wealth inequality, correct. It doesn't mean I hate rich people as individuals - I hate the system that allows them to exist. But them personally? It's not their fault the game is rigged.

Engage your brain and stop reeling off little soundbites.
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So why not stop buying shares. You only do it to get richer yourself and your investments makes it possible for the rich you don’t like to get richer. You are part of the system you hate. You are actually playing the game you say is rigged.
Hardly a sound bite is it?
 
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