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PalazioVecchio said:
i disagree with you Sterling. They will happily separate Religion from State. They have already tried to separate State from Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Spanish Catholicism, Greek Orthodox, and certainly Judaism. Even the 'secular religion' gets put in its place - outside Government and away from harm.

so you see. All good. Separation of Religion from State.
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Indeed, as well as their zealots separating people's physical living state from this earth.
 
georgenorman said:
I don't think a moderate Left really exists anymore. If they are genuinely upset by the assassination of Charlie they should abandon their crazed beliefs that are the root cause of it.
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I get the sentiment but I've met nice communists who would treat you like gold.

You get all sorts.

But yes, a large part of the left are in denial....you saw it the other night.....and they won't take accountability...for several reasons.

We have been at, 'them' and 'us' for about twenty years now and it's just escalation.
 
Stirlingsays said:
I get the sentiment but I've met nice communists who would treat you like gold.

You get all sorts.

But yes, a large part of the left are in denial....you saw it the other night.....and they won't take accountability...for several reasons.

We have been at, 'them' and 'us' for about twenty years now and it's just escalation.
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After the Iryna Zarutska and Charlie Kirk killings, I have lost any tolerance for anyone on the Left. They are like a cancer and as with the medical disease, there are just degrees of the seriousness of the cancer.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Well, not exactly.

Islam is both, it doesn't have a recognition of the separation of 'church' and state like Christianity does. There is no verse to point to unlike in the Gospel.
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Any reasonable interpretation of Islamic political attitudes would not classify them as progressive or left leaning!

They have much more in common with right wing attitudes.
 
eaglesdare said:
Charlie Kirk was assassinated during the week by the left wing actions.
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He was murdered. That much is true. The motivation of his murderer remains unknown, despite the rush to judgement of those who always know best.

We know much more about Charlie Kirk’s attitudes and why they upset some people than why he was killed.

We also know that because of the availability of high powered weapons the means to kill him existed.

An unfortunate combination.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Any reasonable interpretation of Islamic political attitudes would not classify them as progressive or left leaning!

They have much more in common with right wing attitudes.
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That's moving the goal-posts.

It was about the separation of religion and state.....not what attitudes in a religion are.

I'll state what anyone who knows the slightest thing about Islam knows and that it doesn't have a separation of state and religion....It has milder forms but the mainstream isn't that mild on the issue.

As you should know Muslim voters of any stripe overwhelmingly vote left or....recently vote for their own sectarian party (as the right predicted long ago)

Their social attitudes are specific to Islam rather than being 'right wing'......it's a form of social conservationism certainly but it isn't western and while there will be agreement on certain aspects it's very different as a whole.

If it were the same they would vote for western social conservatives wouldn't they....and not you social commies.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Wcelebrate this? So of course not. Only idiots on the left might.

What’s wrong, insulting and divisive is to describe it as a “left thing”. It isn’t. It’s an idiotic thing. Most on the left and the centre condemn it. Only idiots don’t.

George Floyd’s murder was committed in such a shocking way that highlighted an endemic problem of institutional racism. It touched off a wave of protest that united many disparate groups, united by a desire to stop it.

Let’s see how the EU decides to reflect on the challenge to free speech that CK’s murder represents. It only happened a few days ago.
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So it is a left thing 🤔. The EU refused a minutes silence for CK
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
He was murdered. That much is true. The motivation of his murderer remains unknown, despite the rush to judgement of those who always know best.

We know much more about Charlie Kirk’s attitudes and why they upset some people than why he was killed.

We also know that because of the availability of high powered weapons the means to kill him existed.

An unfortunate combination.
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We also know that a climate has been created in which opposing views are intolerable to many. When PG rated films carry trigger warnings to ameliorate offended sensibilities and people are arrested for on-line comments what chance is there for anyone with what others regard as contentious political views.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
He was murdered. That much is true. The motivation of his murderer remains unknown, despite the rush to judgement of those who always know best.

We know much more about Charlie Kirk’s attitudes and why they upset some people than why he was killed.

We also know that because of the availability of high powered weapons the means to kill him existed.

An unfortunate combination.
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Charlie Kirk was assassinated during last week by the left wing actions. They could not debate him so they had him killed.
 
georgenorman said:
I don't think their shooting is very accurate - what with all the drugs and limbo dancing.
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I think it's because they hold their guns horizontally whilst tilting their heads
 
Andrew Wilson (some of you might know him from Piers Morgan's online show) has much more right wing views than Charlie Kirk and in this post Kirk death interview talks about what the progressive left have sent him and sent Kirk's wife.

He's much more full of fire and brimstone than say Nick Fuentes has been.

 
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