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CPFCSaturn said:
You’re accusing me of providing no proof, despite a collection of screenshots and reference points, whilst the pillar of proof supporting your own position is Grok vaguely talking about an alignment in tone, without a single screenshot, example or quote.

I suggest that you are in denial.
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Your collection of screenshots didn't relate to what I asked from you and what are you claiming they prove anyway?

I'll state one more time.

Please provide me the inputs that will enable me to reproduce the claimed Grok output that you posted onto this forum. As the question you provided doesn't do that as it refers to symbols but doesn't produce them.

I think it's fair to assume that if you fail to do this we can dismiss your post as misinformation and a waste of everybody's time.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
You’re accusing me of providing no proof, despite a collection of screenshots and reference points, whilst the pillar of proof supporting your own position is Grok vaguely talking about an alignment in tone, without a single screenshot, example or quote.

I suggest that you are in denial.
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Listen chief. I don't care what you want to call this guy. But while you are here. You are on the left of politics, so maybe you can justify all the leftist/oddball types who are publically celebrating Kirk's death. Let's hear your excuses and diversions for those low lives.

Inject some pseudo intellectual bullshit into that debate. I mean, that is what you are good at.

These people must have had difficult upbringings, surely? You must have something.
 
So immersing yourself into an online website , can so distort your brain function, as to arm yourself and plan rigorously for murder.

We're all open to influences. You either ignore, or run with it. That can happen in any media format.

I've hardly killed anyone on HOL, much
 
Stirlingsays said:
Your collection of screenshots didn't relate to what I asked from you and what are you claiming they prove anyway?

I'll state one more time.

Please provide me the inputs that will enable me to reproduce the claimed Grok output that you posted onto this forum. As the question you provided doesn't do that as it refers to symbols but doesn't produce them.

I think it's fair to assume that if you fail to do this we can dismiss your post as misinformation and a waste of everybody's time.
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It’s pretty poor that I’ve highlighted you are deliberately lingering on this point and not engaging with any other, and in response you’ve done more of the same. Transparent.

Dismiss that post if you want, no problem - I’ll even delete it if it makes you feel better.

Do you think you might engage with one of the many others now, or will you keep deflecting?
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
Listen chief. I don't care what you want to call this guy. But while you are here. You are on the left of politics, so maybe you can justify all the leftist/oddball types who are publically celebrating Kirk's death. Let's hear your excuses and diversions for those low lives.

Inject some pseudo intellectual bullshit into that debate. I mean, that is what you are good at.

These people must have had difficult upbringings, surely? You must have something.
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What a s*** take, but that is what you are good at, chief.

Anyone who takes any pleasure in the murder of a young father wants to have a long look in the mirror.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
What a s*** take, but that is what you are good at, chief.

Anyone who takes any pleasure in the murder of a young father wants to have a long look in the mirror.
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Good. So you condemn those arseholes. That's a start.

So next question. Why are you so focused on disproving a connection with left wing activism?
I'll go where the evidence takes me on that one, but it already seems like a crusade for you.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
Good. So you condemn those arseholes. That's a start.

So next question. Why are you so focused on disproving a connection with left wing activism?
I'll go where the evidence take me on that one, but it already seems like a crusade for you.
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I’m not focused on disproving any connection, I’m focused on understanding how and why someone ends up doing something like this.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
I’m not focused on disproving any connection, I’m focused on understanding how and why someone ends up doing something like this.
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I can answer that.

Because, unlike most people, he did not dismiss a crazy idea that he got in his head. Most filter out stupid and dangerous ideas, but he was that guy who didn't. He went ahead and did it.

His motives are rather secondary in that sense.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
It’s pretty poor that I’ve highlighted you are deliberately lingering on this point and not engaging with any other, and in response you’ve done more of the same. Transparent.

Dismiss that post if you want, no problem - I’ll even delete it if it makes you feel better.

Do you think you might engage with one of the many others now, or will you keep deflecting?
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I have engaged with them.

I've said they are all claims, that you seem to have taken from websites......none of them appear to be verified.

Grok, on the other hand expressly states that its 'analysis is based on verified reports, avoiding unconfirmed speculation.'

If you have some actual specific evidence that can be verified I'm willing to engage with it.

Hell, I'm even willing to hear your claims, nothing wrong with speculation....I was only narked that you said it was 'just as reliable'.

I'll extend the genuine fig leaf that if he is some far right nut who murdered Kirk out of some 'irony' meme or other weird motivation then....while I'd be amazed I'll laud you for your belief in better analysis.

I'm just not buying it myself....not exactly occam’s razor....but like you say, we will see.

I've certainly believed things in the past that turned out to be false.

I remember looking into the Kennedy assassination in the 90s and coming to the conclusion that the Warren commission was largely right.
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Utah Governor Spencer Cox said investigators reviewed the messages, which described leaving a rifle in a bush wrapped in a towel – matching the weapon that authorities recovered in a wooded area near the scene of the shooting.

A Discord spokesperson has now confirmed the platform has been able to identify an account associated with Robinson.

But Discord says it has "found no evidence that the suspect planned this incident or promoted violence on Discord".

beeb.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
I can answer that.

Because, unlike most people, he did not dismiss a crazy idea that he got in his head. Most filter out stupid and dangerous ideas, but he was that guy who didn't. He went ahead and did it.

His motives are rather secondary in that sense.
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I'd be interested to find out if he used strong drugs......But only as an amusing head nod to Hitchens.
 
Stirlingsays said:
I'd be interested to find out if he used strong drugs......But only as an amusing head nod to Hitchens.
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I can be the difference between self control and the alternative. But then, so can 3 cans of larger.
 
Sounds like Trump is coming for George Soros.

NGOs in the USA will be subjected to a federal investigation under the RICO law. This law was enacted under Nixon in 1970 and is aimed at combating organized crime (the mafia) and corrupt officials connected to it. Essentially, Trump equated Soros's entire network to a huge criminal organization.

It's gonna get spicy fellas.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Artificial or not, this is a terrible conclusion for any form of intelligence to come up with.

The sum of evidence that he’s antifa or left wing is that he hated Kirk? Even though this Groyper movement seems to very publicly share the same view.


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Cope. Yeah he shot Kirk just for a laugh.

And isn't Pepe meant to be far right?
 
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