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Spindle said:
First part of this video. PAID protestors

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I believe the Trump administration is going after the funding.

I don't know if it's true or not but I'm told antifa groups are funded by Democrat supporting billionaires and other funders.....it's the obvious answer.

Trump has to go after them hard if he wants to stop this paid activism.
 
Spindle said:
Is that what you should say then when your prejudice is called out? That's a rude and angry response, karenesque
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So what exactly is my prejudice?

When you, completely unprompted, call someone a ‘libtard’ that suggests you have some anger issues that need resolving. You’re similarly rude and abrasive to others you disagree with.

May be time to speak to someone.
 
DanH said:
So what exactly is my prejudice?

When you, completely unprompted, call someone a ‘libtard’ that suggests you have some anger issues that need resolving. You’re similarly rude and abrasive to others you disagree with.

May be time to speak to someone.
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Doesn't 'libtard' fall under trolling? What's the beef?

You do get offended very easily Dan.

Can't people be direct? I accept that it can be rude sometimes and I've been guilty of that, but it's a politics forum not the houses of parliament. I think people keep to a line most of the time.

'Libtard' is hardly going over it is it......It's literally saying someone is overly liberal.

You're not being accused of being a member of an 'extremist' party are you.
 
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Stirlingsays said:
Doesn't 'libtard' fall under trolling? What's the beef?

You do get offended very easily Dan.

Can't people be direct? I accept that it can be rude sometimes and I've been guilty of that, but it's a politics forum not the houses of parliament. I think people keep to a line most of the time.

'Libtard' is hardly going over it is it......It's literally saying someone is overly liberal.
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Why was it necessary though? And where does the ‘tard’ bit of the etymology come from? It’s not suggesting someone is ‘overly liberal’, it’s literally suggesting someone who has liberal views is a r*tard. Classy.

And if being against an innocent mother being shot in the face 3 times is overly liberal these days, I suggest you need to revisit your own views as to their own morality.
 
DanH said:
Why was it necessary though? And where does the ‘tard’ bit of the etymology come from? It’s not suggesting someone is ‘overly liberal’, it’s literally suggesting someone who has liberal views is a r*tard. Classy.
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Fair enough.....So welcome to the world of being called retarded....it's cold, light the fire, here's a cup of coffee.

It's just forum talk, if you feel insults are going over the 'trolling' line and into bullying just report them or just block those you don't want to converse with.

Personally I prefer it when there's a tongue in cheek aspect to it......None of us are changing the world here.

But it's not worth engaging with if it's fecking with your day......it's just a forum.

DanH said:
And if being against an innocent mother being shot in the face 3 times is overly liberal these days, I suggest you need to revisit your own views as to their own morality.
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She wasn't 'innocent', she was breaking the law.

I wish she wasn't dead, but under the rules of engagement nothing will come of it.

Personally I wouldn't have shot her, but that's easy for me to say as I wasn't in that situation with a car coming at me: It's a stress response....and with guns it's sometimes a binary outcome.

You want others to ignore the reality of the situation.

She willingly put herself into a dangerous situation and on top of that made a fatal decision.
 
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Stirlingsays said:
Exactly you don't regard it as an insult.

I remember your posts and they went on and on despite you being told very clearly there were no links.

Didn't stop you did it.

Now it takes a lot for me to whine about speech but if you guys are going to attempt to censor others then I'm going to raise your own double standards.
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Not going over a re-hash, I'm afraid.

Not having any links and being, as you admitted, a personal friend of Laura Towler is a moot point, of course.
 
Stirlingsays said:
The video clearly shows them harassing the Ice agents, using their car to block them and impede their work.....These are legal enforcement officers.....What they were doing was illegal.

When the time came for an apparent arrest, when we can clearly hear the Ice agent tell the driver to exit the car, she drives off into the path of the Ice agent....He moved quickly but it also seems that she clipped him.

Probably not panicked but incredibly stupid.....I doubt she was aiming for him....But we will never know.

She put an Ice agent's life in danger and tragically lost her own as a result. In a gun culture like the US, this unfortunate outcome is always a possibility.
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That’s probably true! What isn’t is that the response of the agent was legal.

Protesting is legal. Blocking a highway isn’t. ICE officers though are not responsible for the enforcement of traffic law. Local state police are. Their powers, whilst significantly expanded since Trump returned, are still limited to the identification and removal of illegal immigrants. They have no authority over citizens. They can briefly detain, without a warrant, for the purposes of identification but must have reasonable cause for doing so. See this:-


The headcam video from the agent shows him looking directly at Renee Nicole Good. There is no way he could have thought her likely to be an illegal immigrant. He had no authority over her. The agents should have politely requested her to move and if she refused call for help from those with the power of enforcement. So they exceeded their authority at every stage and using lethal force was indefensible.

This will end up in a Court battle between the State and the White House. Which I can see only one outcome for. I can see the ICE leadership being sued for incentivising illegal actions. It will surely dramatically increase the already extensive protests over ICE. It’s one thing to detect and remove criminals. It’s another to stop and remove law abiding illegals. It’s a major step too far to stop legally protesting citizens. It’s totally unacceptable to shoot citizens in the head with no just cause.

The defence offered by Trump and his mouthpieces are so weak that I can’t see anyone really believing them and most getting very angry about them. The consequences of which we will have to see.
 
DanH said:
So what exactly is my prejudice?

When you, completely unprompted, call someone a ‘libtard’ that suggests you have some anger issues that need resolving. You’re similarly rude and abrasive to others you disagree with.

May be time to speak to someone.
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You called it murder therefore you had already decided. I called you out on requesting charge, trial and conviction, and I also said it was prejudice, and this is a literal definition of that - to pre judge - and in my experience this is the kind of behaviour that liberal retards will engage in. And then to follow it up with victimhood and character assasination - all boxes ticked, if it looks like a duck.....etc
 
DanH said:
Why was it necessary though? And where does the ‘tard’ bit of the etymology come from? It’s not suggesting someone is ‘overly liberal’, it’s literally suggesting someone who has liberal views is a r*tard. Classy.

And if being against an innocent mother being shot in the face 3 times is overly liberal these days, I suggest you need to revisit your own views as to their own morality.
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Retard means "late" in French, it has a history in our language and is simply another of these words that was used explicitly and to true definition in the past but the libtards of the time, the previous generations of Karen, managed to get upset and offended by so it became unacceptable to use. Like "The Spastics Society" charity having to change their name to "Scope". It won't be long before "Karen" is an offensive word and we can't use that either.

Grow some balls.
 
Spindle said:
Retard means "late" in French, it has a history in our language and is simply another of these words that was used explicitly and to true definition in the past but the libtards of the time, the previous generations of Karen, managed to get upset and offended by so it became unacceptable to use. Like "The Spastics Society" charity having to change their name to "Scope". It won't be long before "Karen" is an offensive word and we can't use that either.

Grow some balls.
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Yep, too much snowflakely.

Being called stupid is as old as the hills.
 
Spindle said:
I can't understand why they are even there. But of course, angry liberal LGBTQ couple, it's their hobby and they are immune. Members of an anti ICE group, it's just what normal people do in life, go out and harass armed cops from doing their job.
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Whatever you think of them, or their motives, is an irrelevant sideshow. The question is was what they doing illegal and, if so, how must it be handled.

Law enforcement must be done correctly, or trust in the law disappears and the USA returns to the standards of the Wild West.
 
Spindle said:
Retard means "late" in French, it has a history in our language and is simply another of these words that was used explicitly and to true definition in the past but the libtards of the time, the previous generations of Karen, managed to get upset and offended by so it became unacceptable to use. Like "The Spastics Society" charity having to change their name to "Scope". It won't be long before "Karen" is an offensive word and we can't use that either.

Grow some balls.
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Wow. What a lovely man you are.
 
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