Hrolf The Ganger
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Moderators are allowed to have opinions, and if you can't handle some banter, then a football website is probably not the place for you.
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Hrolf The Ganger
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Refreshing to hear such honesty.
Wisbech Eagle
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Only if they read the whole report and then read the summary of the key points, which sets it in context.
A few carefully selected bits of text are meaningless on their own.
Here’s the summary again:-
Key Findings of the Mueller Report | ACS
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So a VP who was selected by Trump as an insurance policy (who would try to assassinate Trump knowing you would get Vance) expresses views that hard right parties in Europe also support! Choosing a running mate who’s even worse than you is quite an achievement.
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You have approved lies told by other politicians.
Trump could resolve the climate crisis and end world hunger and you'd say he'd only done it to appease his own ego.
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I don’t approve of any politician lying unless he must because of national security. Not telling all they know or emphasising certain aspects over others is just politics.
Trump is on a completely different level. He just lies, about everything all the time. It’s though only one of his many faults. What I find amazing is that some cannot see it and go on trying to defend him. He is indefensible.
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That's still approving their lies just because you approve of the situation as explained by those doing the lying.
Just because most don't feel the need to moan about and criticise Trump on an hourly basis doesn't mean they don't understand his shortcomings.
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Kant wrote something about this.
Categorical Imperative is a fundamental principle in his moral philosophy that serves as a universal moral law. It states that one should act only according to that maxim which can be universally applied as a law for everyone.
Therefore lying as a justification to take down a liar has no morality itself.
I think it's justified to criticise Trump as someone who lies to advance their personal aims.
What isn't justified is to claim you are better when you support lies to remove him.
Categorical Imperative is a fundamental principle in his moral philosophy that serves as a universal moral law. It states that one should act only according to that maxim which can be universally applied as a law for everyone.
Therefore lying as a justification to take down a liar has no morality itself.
I think it's justified to criticise Trump as someone who lies to advance their personal aims.
What isn't justified is to claim you are better when you support lies to remove him.
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Though I admit people pick and choose this stuff all the time.
Using nukes on civilians in Japan to end the war.
What's happened in Gaza.
In times of war universalist principles go out the window.
Then again, I'm not a universalist myself, but I will say that I see the morality within it.....I just don't think it works due to both ethnic and political tribalism.....inherent baked in facts about humanity.
It's about survival until the AI rules baby!
Using nukes on civilians in Japan to end the war.
What's happened in Gaza.
In times of war universalist principles go out the window.
Then again, I'm not a universalist myself, but I will say that I see the morality within it.....I just don't think it works due to both ethnic and political tribalism.....inherent baked in facts about humanity.
It's about survival until the AI rules baby!
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It’s hardly just moaning to criticise Trump! I see him as an existential threat to us all. So any time he, his policies, or his behaviour are defended or justified they deserve to be examined and the lying exposed.
If others also see the shortcomings then I fail to understand why they justify and defend. If they don’t want to participate in the criticism then ok, but approval is not.
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Moaning is exactly what it is and what it has been for the past 9 years.
Economic commentary from DanH is like getting safeguarding advice from Jimmy Saville.
Having said that Saville probably had a better grasp of economics
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Donald Trump tariffs: US revenue hits record high in 2025; earns $87 billion in first-half - Times of India
International Business News: Under President Trump's trade policy, the US has already surpassed its 2024 tariff revenue, collecting over $87 billion by June 2025. New tariffs, ran
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There were pages and pages from the NPCs on here (and so called economic experts) saying the Trump tariffs would be a disaster BeCaUsE tHe MeDiA sAiD!
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Donald Trump tariffs: US revenue hits record high in 2025; earns $87 billion in first-half - Times of India
International Business News: Under President Trump's trade policy, the US has already surpassed its 2024 tariff revenue, collecting over $87 billion by June 2025. New tariffs, ran
There were pages and pages from the NPCs on here (and so called economic experts) saying the Trump tariffs would be a disaster BeCaUsE tHe MeDiA sAiD!
And one of them works in economics or has a degree in it 🤣
Donald Trump tariffs: US revenue hits record high in 2025; earns $87 billion in first-half - Times of India
International Business News: Under President Trump's trade policy, the US has already surpassed its 2024 tariff revenue, collecting over $87 billion by June 2025. New tariffs, ran
There were pages and pages from the NPCs on here (and so called economic experts) saying the Trump tariffs would be a disaster BeCaUsE tHe MeDiA sAiD!
Of course tariff revenue was going to go up if he raised them massively.
They’re also inflationary, which is happening as they are passed on to the US consumer - https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idRW411031072025RP1/
And the underlying US economy is still weak - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/30/...second-quarter-as-tariffs-scrambled-data.html
The average US voter won’t really care about tariff revenue if their day to day essentials are costing them more and more and economic conditions aren’t great. His approval rating on the economy keeps dropping - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...-his-term-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-07-29/
bUt He’S mAdE a LoT oF mOnEy On TaRiFfS
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Ah, playing the 'victim card'. You don't like it when I remind you of your previous posts so are 'playing the man' on me with your moderator jibe, which is irrelevant. You tend to give it large and disappear when found out as you have no substance. As for 'circle jerk', that's rich considering CPFCSaturn's post --> US Politics
So you’re all allowed to stick up for each other and Wisbech gets his daily gang abuse but someone else isn’t allowed to stick up for me? Got it.
As long as you’re happy with your site going further down the online US right sewer and continuing losing many a decent longstanding poster because of it then not much the rest of us can do about it.