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Keir Starmer has become the next world leader to congratulate Donald Trump on what he calls a "historic election victory".

"I look forward to working with you in the years ahead," the UK's prime minister says, adding:

“As the closest of allies, we stand shoulder to shoulder in defence of our shared values of freedom, democracy and enterprise.

“From growth and security to innovation and tech, I know that the UK-US special relationship will continue to prosper on both sides of the Atlantic for years to come.”


Yup nice one Sir Keir let's hope that Trump forgets Labour campaigned against him 😵
Send for Lammy 🤣
 
We saw a flood from Ukraine when Russia first invaded. I expect a bigger one now.

Whilst Trump will rack up a trade war with tariffs that will fuel US inflation he won’t interfere militarily over Taiwan. The brightest will leave. Let’s hope we will accept them. Or indeed in the disputes in the South China Sea. Which is not good for any of the western leaning states in the region. The balance of world power was always shifting east but Trump will give it an almighty push. Make America Great Again? More like kick it in the teeth.

It won’t stop for long with Ukraine. Putin will lick his wounds, consolidate and then push on. Without US resolve it will require the rest of NATO to step into the breach for 4 years to hold back the tide. These will be dangerous days.

Trump did nothing for the US economy. Any pre Covid growth was due to Obama, just with a time lag. The inflation in the early Biden years was down to Russia, Covid and Trump. The recovery now is down to Biden, but the credit will be claimed by Trump.

Flows of people are just part of the modern world. They demand effective management but are not just taps you can turn off. Politicians who suggest they can are peddling dreams.

That the people buy those dreams is true and has always been true. It’s how populists win. They lie, as Trump lies, and they win.

What’s surprising is that the people know Trump lies, but choose to ignore it.

Doing the same thing twice and expecting different results?

The right will gloat and think they can do the same in Europe but when it gets messy in the USA they might find we are better at learning lessons than the Americans.
“There’s no whining from me” “ “ move on. Yesterday is done” Wisbech Eagle 9.45am.
This post from Wisbech Eagle 10.28am!
Maybe take your own advice, have a cuppa, take the dog out and don’t watch the news. Best for your health
 
What an incredible victory for Trump. Love him or hate him this is impressive.

Having said that, the Democrats decision making is truly bizarre and gives an insight into the disastrous way they run things. First choosing a senile bent old duffer who can hardly walk up a flight of stairs let alone run a country, Then ushering in an unelected lady who quite frankly is a dim wit and couldn’t give a straight answer to ANY question. Truly shocking calibre of person.

Where have all the great Democrat statesmen/women gone?
 
You haven’t got a clue! 😂
What people are sick of are sky high groceries, rampant crime, Illegal Immigration as well as the sense that those same illegals are getting preferential treatment to regular Americans & indeed veterans.
People are sick of crumbling infrastructure shoddy roads & subways & wondering why their tax dollar is being wasted.
People are sick of rainbow flags, mentally ill people walking the streets & blokes with fat hairy nuts masquerading as woman & participating in women's sports & insisting that they have a 'right' to use the same bathrooms/changing rooms.
People are sick of billions of tax dollars going to Israel, Ukraine & other nations instead of the American people.
And people don't take to kindly to be calling scum, lowlifes & racists by the Left.
 
What an incredible victory for Trump. Love him or hate him this is impressive.

Having said that, the Democrats decision making is truly bizarre and gives an insight into the disastrous way they run things. First choosing a senile bent old duffer who can hardly walk up a flight of stairs let alone run a country, Then ushering in an unelected lady who quite frankly is a dim wit and couldn’t give a straight answer to ANY question. Truly shocking calibre of person.

Where have all the great Democrat statesmen/women gone?

To Trump. To name but two Gabbard & Kennedy
 
It's time for Kamala to publicly accept defeat. The longer she leaves it the more ungracious she and the Democrats will look. Most of the world's leaders have now congratulated Trump so it seems odd that his opponent hasn't.

She doesn't have to praise Trump just say America has spoken and the Democrats will be back.
 
Still not official but looking good for Trump. If you want a laugh look at the BBS thread starting around page 15 which was about 1am in the morning.

At that time it was all positive with the BBS predicting that Harris will win North Carolina. By about 4am it was all doom and gloom and the end of civilisation as we know it.

Many of the posters claiming this is the end of democracy and that the Dems will never get back in. Complete nonsense of course in 4 years Trump will be gone and they will have another election.
Anyone looking in now would think Damien Thorne is president.
 
What people are sick of are sky high groceries, rampant crime, Illegal Immigration as well as the sense that those same illegals are getting preferential treatment to regular Americans & indeed veterans.
People are sick of crumbling infrastructure shoddy roads & subways & wondering why their tax dollar is being wasted.
People are sick of rainbow flags, mentally ill people walking the streets & blokes with fat hairy nuts masquerading as woman & participating in women's sports & insisting that they have a 'right' to use the same bathrooms/changing rooms.
People are sick of billions of tax dollars going to Israel, Ukraine & other nations instead of the American people.
And people don't take to kindly to be calling scum, lowlifes & racists by the Left.
When did you move back to the UK, Jimmy?
 
What people are sick of are sky high groceries, rampant crime, Illegal Immigration as well as the sense that those same illegals are getting preferential treatment to regular Americans & indeed veterans.
People are sick of crumbling infrastructure shoddy roads & subways & wondering why their tax dollar is being wasted.
People are sick of rainbow flags, mentally ill people walking the streets & blokes with fat hairy nuts masquerading as woman & participating in women's sports & insisting that they have a 'right' to use the same bathrooms/changing rooms.
People are sick of billions of tax dollars going to Israel, Ukraine & other nations instead of the American people.
And people don't take to kindly to be calling scum, lowlifes & racists by the Left.
Trump will cut taxes so not sure how that will help the 'crumbling infrastructure'.
Trump is a big supporter of Israel so will continue supplying weapons, as did Biden.
If American don't fund Ukraine then his mate Putin will win which will have ramifications for the world. China will probably go for Taiwan.
Not sure how illegals get preferential treatment as they can't work and have no access to health.
Trump has led a divisive campaign and has called people every name under the sun - don't think he or his supporters can hold the morale high ground.
Trump has promised to eliminate inflation. Not sure how this is even possible, i suppose he can give grants/discounts to farmers, but he is also telling everyone he will put tariffs on imports - this will clearly be inflationary when those countries do likewise.
Trump's previous record on immigration was pretty mixed. What happened to the wall?

Ultimately Trump managed to appeal to working class people. Let's see what he does for them.
Cutting access to health care must surely impact them more than other groups.
 
The Guardian on 10 reasons why Harris won the election, err?


I'm serious the headline gives the impression that it is why she lost but when you read the 10 points it's as if the author wrote them assuming that Harris would win and hadn't changed them since.

I particularly like point 2 Kamala is a brat.

As Charli explained on TikTok, brat is “just like that girl who is a little messy and likes to party and maybe says some dumb things sometimes, who feels herself, but then also maybe has a breakdown, but kind of parties through it”.

Wow what an endorsement, with friends like this.....
 
A historic victory.

Ultimately, people vote for their own interests.

Watching your country fill up with illegals as your living standards drop is all you need.

The same pattern is happening here. It is only our electoral system that currently stops that being reflected in Parliament.
People need to be sure where to put their X next time. With a party who will end this two party spiral towards disaster.
Even recent migrants in the US know that their best interests are served by closing the border.

Our minorities need to realise that too.
 
From a British POV, then Lammy has to go. It won't happen over-night but I suspect by the time Trump comes into office in Jan '25 then we will have been eased out. Its untenable to have him as our Foreign Secretary given what he has publicly stated about Trump in the past.
 
When any election was predicted to be as tight as this in a country like the USA where common sense often seems in short supply then nothing was certain.

That was always understood. So whilst neither the result I expected or wanted, to suggest I was wrong isn’t true. I knew no more than anyone else. Analysing what happened will take months. Now we need to focus on how to cope. Dwelling on what happened yesterday achieves nothing.

So I won’t dwell. You can gloat if that makes you happy. That achieves nothing either.

Now I am thinking about any likely personal impacts and then about the wider implications.
You are so patronizing and degrading about American citizens. You think you know best and are truly blinkered in your thoughts!

You might not like the rhetoric from Trump but he faced up to the reality of the situation in the country, whilst the other side didn’t. Hispanics, white suburban women and black men decided this election and not his MAGA base!

Pelosi and Obama alone, decided to change tactics from Biden to Harris to avoid a humiliation without the chance for the party electorate to Vote!!

A spectacular failure rather than a Trump win!! How bad can they be to get swept even with the advantages of never trumpers, college radicals, abortion rights etc all going in their favor!
 
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