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Wisbech Eagle
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That certainly concerns me. In fact I am convinced he only chose him as a kind of insurance so he is less likely to be a target if Vance would be the outcome.
On another subject Trump denied prior to the election he had even heard of Project 2025. Now read this on its background. It was written in 2023 in anticipation of him being re-elected.
Project 2025 - Wikipedia
Just compare what was planned with what Trump is actually doing. If he had never heard of it, he has now. If what he has done so far so closely mirrors what was planned how probable is it that what will follow will too?
Yet some seem pleased about this.
The other unserious poster backing up the other one. Imagine my shock.
We can see what your mate Grok has to say about the Trump coin:
“Determining the exact amount of money Donald Trump has personally made from his $TRUMP meme coin is challenging due to limited public information and the opaque nature of the ownership structure. However, I can provide an overview based on available data as of March 24, 2025.
The $TRUMP meme coin, launched on January 17, 2025, on the Solana blockchain, saw its market value soar to over $27 billion within a day of its debut, according to a Wikipedia entry from March 18, 2025. Two Trump-affiliated entities, CIC Digital LLC (an affiliate of the Trump Organization) and Fight Fight Fight LLC, collectively own 80% of the coin’s total supply of 1 billion tokens. Of these, 200 million were released in an initial coin offering (ICO), leaving 800 million tokens held by these entities, scheduled for gradual release over three years.
Reports indicate significant revenue generation from the coin. A Financial Times analysis cited in the same Wikipedia entry estimated that the $TRUMP project netted at least $350 million through token sales and trading fees by March 2025. Reuters reported on February 3, 2025, that entities behind the coin accumulated between $86 million and $100 million in trading fees from January 17 to January 30 alone, with CIC Digital explicitly named as a recipient of trading revenue. Additionally, a Forbes article from January 19, 2025, noted the coin’s market cap hit $15 billion at its peak, though it later fell to $9.36 billion by January 20.
Despite these figures, Trump’s personal profit remains unclear. The ownership split between CIC Digital and Fight Fight Fight is not publicly detailed, and it’s uncertain how much of the revenue directly flows to Trump himself rather than the companies or other stakeholders. Reuters explicitly stated it could not determine what portion of the fees accrued to Trump personally. Furthermore, the coin’s website disclaimer notes that the tokens are not intended as an investment, and the locked 800 million tokens’ value is theoretical until released, complicating any direct calculation of personal gains.
Posts on X, such as one from
@MartiniGuyYT
on March 13, 2025, suggest Trump may have profited significantly, claiming over $390 million was “sniped” in the first two days, but these claims lack verifiable backing and should be treated as speculative sentiment rather than fact.
In summary, while the $TRUMP coin has generated substantial revenue—potentially hundreds of millions in fees and sales—there’s no definitive evidence specifying Trump’s personal earnings. Estimates of his potential gains, based on the 80% stake held by his companies, could range from tens to hundreds of millions on paper, depending on the coin’s valuation and fee distribution, but without precise ownership and payout details, an exact figure cannot be confirmed.”
So do you both m think it’s OK for him and his companies to financially benefit in this way from holding the office of US President?
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Most politicians had big shares in Covid pharmaceutical companies the last few years. And they were allowed to make big decisions and sprout nonsense that directly affected their investments.
This also included lawmakers who sat on numerous committees that had oversight over health policy.
I'm sure if you used Grok you would get some specific examples 😉
Do you think it was right then that people in power made these decisions and fear mongered people to wear masks and get vaxxed on their social medias that directly affected their investments?
Anyways I have made just under 4 quid on the Trump coin 😁 maybe I'll be able to get two beers at the end of the week when I withdraw.
Wow, talk about changing the goal posts (and not backing any of those assertions up with anything even remotely resembling proof).
You always know someone is out of their depth when they answer a question with another question.
Deeply unserious.
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Let me answer then. No I don't think anyone in a position of power should be making decisions that affect their companies, investments or money. That goes for Trump or anyone else.
You can answer my question then 😉 as for proof... A simple Grok you will have your answer.
Anyways sun is shining stop being grumpy have a coffee or whatever you have in the morning there really is no need for hostilities 👍🏻
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Hunter Biden laptop......
No surprise, sensitive info regularly turned up on UK trains and at bus stops.
If the shoe were on the other foot there would be same reaction
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I'm backing him up because you're so grumpy......Was you called away from painting your nails or something?
On a more serious note, because apparently we can't be 'unserious' as that's some kind of negative apparently.....hint...(nothing anyone says on forums amounts to a hill of beans Mr 'Serious')....but on your question I don't actually think it's a good idea for Trump to have his own crypto coin.....just not for the reasons the left obviously have....which is wanting Trump and anyone who supports him to fail financially and in every other way.....a lot of them are twisted evil weirdos.
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That’s the best laugh I will get today!
Someone on the hard right describing those on the left as “twisted evil weirdos”.
Which given the composition of the current US administration is a perfect description of them.
It’s worthy of Trump himself. Accusing others of that he is himself guilty is a tactic he learned from Roy Cohn which he follows obsessively.
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The White House confirms that a journalist was inadvertently added to a secret group chat where senior US officials discussed plans for a strike against the Houthi group in Yemen
It doesn't really come as any surprise 😀 I think a majority of Europeans might have similar views of their own Governments
- In the chat, Vice-President JD Vance seemingly says he hates "bailing Europe out again"
- Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth apparently replies to Vance with: "I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It's PATHETIC"
It doesn't really come as any surprise 😀 I think a majority of Europeans might have similar views of their own Governments
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I share his dislike of our governments however, it did annoy me a little insomuch as the situation of dependency that Europe has on America was a system that America itself designed.
It's only since Trump turned up that this messaging to change came about. So while I agree with Trump's team that Europe should be able to defend itself (independent of a 'Russian threat') I regard that particular criticism as a bit ignorant.
In fact the Americans very much want us to be at odds with the Russians, all while they make trade deals with them and so feck us in the backside. Europe are currently talking nonsense about Russia to cover for the fact that they have made fools of themselves with Ukraine.....but there's no reds coming over the hill and in the meantime we are buying more expensive American gas and watched the Ukrainians/Americans blow up one of the pipelines for cheap energy.
Played like the fools they are.
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Now the self hating but entitled British white middle and higher class want us to be both anti American and anti Russian......One our biggest single trading nation that we founded and the other the producer of the cheapest energy we could get.
It's all ideological, not about what's best for the country but what suits their political tribalism.
They all want us back in the EU, even though financially the EU is in the pits....with the Germans breaking its own fiscal rules and printing money like it's a never ending Christmas.
It's all ideological, not about what's best for the country but what suits their political tribalism.
They all want us back in the EU, even though financially the EU is in the pits....with the Germans breaking its own fiscal rules and printing money like it's a never ending Christmas.
Just the sort of comment we expect in these times.
Animosity at every turn and the highlighted comment is just typical of how things are going.
Come on Lefty, cheer up. You sound so miserable this morning with comments like that. Or have I mistaken the comment for high-spirited jocularity?
Oops.
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Yeah, but they're printing Euros - all those Deutschmarks are still safely stored away for a rainy day... 😉
Your grumpiness doesn't allow you to see that not every criticism of trump or your right - wing, white - race ideals are expounded simply because they are "the left", Lefty.
You lose your humour when you bang on like this.
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Listen Farage, the only difference between the left and social liberals is that they disagree on horrible wacky idea 3 subsection 2 and think that nutty concept 5 subsection 4 might have gone a bit too far.....hardly any real difference.
It's mostly a reach-around.
Rachel Reeves has had more criticism on the other thread for accepting Sabrina Carpenter tickets than those responsible for this monumental f*ck up or Trump for his crypto scam have had on here.