UK Police and Judiciary out of control?

There's a different reason you wouldn't walk past the Blind Beggar now. Go to Whitechapel, experience the rich tapestry of diversity yourself.
However, there was no reason to be scared in the past - particularly for women. It would be the last place there would be any crime. Not anymore. Several modern murders near there now.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
Walking past gangs of ten or twenty urban yoof......it can be a bit intimidating for all of us mate. Not just the wives.
You can only guess whether or not some of the lads are carrying. But you can be certain that the many bicycles will outpace you. And that your rapier wit may not be enough to talk your way out of trouble. And it doesnt matter if you are as hard as Bruce Lee.....its not enough to save you.


I can easily identify a few postcodes & street corners that are regular flash-points for all this - looking intimidating time-and-again. But i would expect all non Cornwall Eagles can easily do the same ?
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Gangs existed when I was a young man. I avoided all of them but the mods and rockers beating the hell of each other on Brighton seafront wasn’t a myth. Not so many knives, which is today’s big problem, but a swinging bike chain could do some damage.

If you can identify flashpoints then you can avoid flashpoints. Wherever they are. I wouldn’t go into Truro town centre after 11 on a Friday or Saturday night.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Totally wrong. I have no opinion on life in London. I haven’t lived there for 65 years. I observe parts of it when I visit, very occasionally, and am very pleased I don’t now. I didn’t like it 65 years ago because it was crowded, impolite and expensive. That’s seems not to have improved.

What I comment on is not life in London but the attitudes displayed here by some who do. I don’t doubt your wife was afraid to walk down the road in broad daylight. I felt the same walking past the Blind Beggar in Whitechapel 65 years ago. I don’t do it now through choice and nor, I suspect, does your wife. Which is the point. We all have choices. If you choose to live there, for whatever reason, then clearly those reasons outweigh the reasons not to. It seems to me that some just get stuck in a rut, are incapable of dealing with things so just moan about them. Which is their responsibility. Not their environment.

I choose to live in Cornwall. Which means neither the West End nor Selhurst Park are on my doorstep. Beaches, fresh air, good sailing, great fishing, The Hall for Cornwall and Truro City are though. I have made a choice. Others make theirs, or are too lazy to try.

You had a couple of unfortunate experiences here some years ago. They happen! There are a*se holes everywhere. What I have pointed out is that your experience was untypical, based on my own which now extends for 15 years.

Providing verification for any personal experience on a forum is next to impossible. Sharing them is all you can do and hope that your word is trusted. I don’t doubt your tales of being badly treated here even without them being verified.
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Wow.
Privileged boomer spends his days on his yacht.
Implies that other not so fortunate, presumably including teenage girl victims of urban grooming gangs, are to blame for where they live because they are 'too lazy' to get out.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It is a mystery! One of my first wife’s family lived in Southall during the time the character changed. He worked on building sites, little education, self taught Jack of all trades and reliable. He left with nothing but a new wife and a car and, coincidentally came to Cornwall. His brother followed, then his parents. He bought, and renovated, a tumble down cottage whilst living in a caravan, using Dad’s money. That cottage now extended is worth close to £1 mil. He set up a highly successful building business with his brother and became seriously wealthy, building a lovely home for his parents as well.

It all depends on what is most important and your determination to get it. The attitudes depend on how you deal with the experience. They can either motivate you to action or to a moanfest.

Ok, so the shooting of Kray’s rival didn’t happen until 1966 but Whitechapel was pretty scary long before that and the Krays reputation well known. I had to use the adjacent tube station and didn’t hang around.
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It just isn't that easy. If it was the population of Belfast would have moved out. They must have really enjoyed a good moan.
 
The 'blind' seem to be their latest target group for arrest.

Saying this sentence I feel like I should pinch myself to check this is still the real world


 
McAhuna said:
The 'blind' seem to be their latest target group for arrest.

Saying this sentence I feel like I should pinch myself to check this is still the real world


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They all know PA is a terrorist group.
When does pushing the boundaries to try to prove a point end for these idiots. PA have form and these people are like their pawns. In reality if PA or it’s top cared they would come out and advise these twats to not get arrested in their behalf but like Hamas, they use the innocent for their propaganda and gain alone. Blind or disabled, stop being twats.
 
McAhuna said:
Wow.
Privileged boomer spends his days on his yacht.
Implies that other not so fortunate, presumably including teenage girl victims of urban grooming gangs, are to blame for where they live because they are 'too lazy' to get out.
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You are right, but only in one thing. I am a boomer but I am not privileged and I don’t own a yacht. I earned every penny I have myself. I neither Inherited nor was given anything.

I am not any more fortunate than anyone who started out on the bottom rung. I just posses determination and a little ability.
 
cryrst said:
They all know PA is a terrorist group.
When does pushing the boundaries to try to prove a point end for these idiots. PA have form and these people are like their pawns. In reality if PA or it’s top cared they would come out and advise these twats to not get arrested in their behalf but like Hamas, they use the innocent for their propaganda and gain alone. Blind or disabled, stop being twats.
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PA is not a terrorist group in any meaningful sense of the word - they are a non-violent protest group that engages in civil disobedience and seeks to disrupt military equipment, not harm people.
It has been proscribed by the UK government, but this is opposed by many in the police and being challenged in the High Courts.
The High Court have also ruled that police officers enforcing the ban in the last few weeks have misused or misunderstood the law when shutting down pro-Palestine protests that have no link to Palestine Action. Therefore the police are ignoring the High Court ruling and are, ironically, the ones behaving illegally.
Targeting the blind tells its own story about their ethics and morality.

You may as well describe the Holmesdale Fanatics as a terrorist group or arrest people wearing Che Guevara t-shirts. Perhaps that is planned for 2026.
 
McAhuna said:
PA is not a terrorist group in any meaningful sense of the word - they are a non-violent protest group that engages in civil disobedience and seeks to disrupt military equipment, not harm people.
It has been proscribed by the UK government, but this is opposed by many in the police and being challenged in the High Courts.
The High Court have also ruled that police officers enforcing the ban in the last few weeks have misused or misunderstood the law when shutting down pro-Palestine protests that have no link to Palestine Action. Therefore the police are ignoring the High Court ruling and are, ironically, the ones behaving illegally.
Targeting the blind tells its own story about their ethics and morality.

You may as well describe the Holmesdale Fanatics as a terrorist group or arrest people wearing Che Guevara t-shirts. Perhaps that is planned for 2026.
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It must be really difficult for our Police at the moment. They understand the right of peaceful protest but have to react to the fact that PA have been banned. That was a political decision, not a policing one.

They are also aware of the need to protect citizens at a time of heightened tensions and cannot be in several places at once. They are between a rock and a hard place and cannot win.

If I was organising the protests about the unreasonable banning of PA I would suspend them for a while, to help the police, and concentrate on media work to make their points. That would probably win them brownie points in the court of public opinion.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
Che Guevara was a Commie. Now a poster boy for Antifa. Like a cult leader.

Try a Lech Walesa T shirt........and see how long before you get arrested.
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Hardly anyone will know who Lech Welesa is, particularly the police. I doubt Starmer's ever heard of him.
They'll all know the murderous psycho Guevara but mainly because of the Galway guy's picture. Not any of the reality of it.
 
ASCPFC said:
Hardly anyone will know who Lech Welesa is, particularly the police. I doubt Starmer's ever heard of him.
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you need not be a Leftie to be a true working-class hero. This bloke helped dismantle the tyrannical Soviet Union. A tyranny characterised by.....

- judiciary & cops out of control
- a Media awash with propaganda & lies

- a two tier society, with top jobs only for a certain class of citizen
- a politicised Education system

- Censorship
- the persecution of political dissidents

- a Uniparty. With no real choice at elections.
- Christianophobia, AntiChristianic, AntiChristianism at an institutional level

- constant attacks on the nuclear family by Daddy Government.
- pregnant women working digging the roads.

en.wikipedia.org

Lech Wałęsa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Loveless Letters | History Today

www.historytoday.com www.historytoday.com
 
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PalazioVecchio said:
you need not be a Leftie to be a true working-class hero. This bloke helped dismantle the tyrannical Soviet Union. A tyranny characterised by.....

- judiciary & cops out of control
- a Media awash with propaganda & lies

- a two tier society, with top jobs only for a certain class of citizen
- a politicised Education system

- Censorship
- the persecution of political dissidents

- a Uniparty. With no real choice at elections.
- Christianophobia, AntiChristianic, AntiChristianism at an institutional level

- constant attacks on the nuclear family by Daddy Government.
- pregnant women working digging the roads.

en.wikipedia.org

Lech Wałęsa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Loveless Letters | History Today

www.historytoday.com www.historytoday.com
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Lech Walesa was a great man who did indeed do much to destroy the Soviet Union. Whilst your categorisation of the USSR might be correct your implied similarities to us today is not.

In fact the highlights above all apply to the way the USA is under Trump. A man admired and copied by a certain Nigel Farage.

Walesa would be leading the fight against populism, not celebrating it.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It must be really difficult for our Police at the moment. They understand the right of peaceful protest but have to react to the fact that PA have been banned. That was a political decision, not a policing one.

They are also aware of the need to protect citizens at a time of heightened tensions and cannot be in several places at once. They are between a rock and a hard place and cannot win.

If I was organising the protests about the unreasonable banning of PA I would suspend them for a while, to help the police, and concentrate on media work to make their points. That would probably win them brownie points in the court of public opinion.
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Difficult for our Police?

You think they'd be facing a disciplinary if they didn't bring back a hand-cuffed blind pensioner to the nick?
 
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