UK Police and Judiciary out of control?

[McAhuna]

Lech Walesa was a great man who did indeed do much to destroy the Soviet Union. Whilst your categorisation of the USSR might be correct your implied similarities to us today is not.

In fact the highlights above all apply to the way the USA is under Trump. A man admired and copied by a certain Nigel Farage.

Walesa would be leading the fight against populism, not celebrating it.

Next, you'll be telling us that Walesa was non-binary and that the Gdansk uprising's main aim was the legalisation of full-term abortions.

 

[McAhuna]

you need not be a Leftie to be a true working-class hero. This bloke helped dismantle the tyrannical Soviet Union. A tyranny characterised by.....

- judiciary & cops out of control
- a Media awash with propaganda & lies

- a two tier society, with top jobs only for a certain class of citizen
- a politicised Education system

- Censorship
- the persecution of political dissidents

- a Uniparty. With no real choice at elections.
- Christianophobia, AntiChristianic, AntiChristianism at an institutional level

- constant attacks on the nuclear family by Daddy Government.
- pregnant women working digging the roads.

Lech Wałęsa - Wikipedia

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I agree ....and I see the parallels you are making.

It shows how tired and obsolete the old left/right paradigm rhetoric has become. Especially when people try to apply it across different decades and countries.

Tyranny is tyranny and freedom is freedom, whatever side they attach to.

The truth is that Che Guevara, Lech Walesa and all mainstream politicians pre-1990 would all be considered culturally conservative by most definitions in 2025. They would ALL look at modern woke politicians and consider them to be mentally ill. Especially the ones who struggle to explain what a woman is or who persecute children for waving for their own national flag.

 

[cryrst]

PA is not a terrorist group in any meaningful sense of the word - they are a non-violent protest group that engages in civil disobedience and seeks to disrupt military equipment, not harm people.
It has been proscribed by the UK government, but this is opposed by many in the police and being challenged in the High Courts.
The High Court have also ruled that police officers enforcing the ban in the last few weeks have misused or misunderstood the law when shutting down pro-Palestine protests that have no link to Palestine Action. Therefore the police are ignoring the High Court ruling and are, ironically, the ones behaving illegally.
Targeting the blind tells its own story about their ethics and morality.

You may as well describe the Holmesdale Fanatics as a terrorist group or arrest people wearing Che Guevara t-shirts. Perhaps that is planned for 2026.

Whoa let me give you a comparison of sorts. Not as brutal but look at Hamas when the Arab spring put them in power. Said they would work alongside the incumbent and then quite quickly proceeded to kill them and took full control and killed and caused the deaths of many 1000s of civilians in more than one country. The way PA were progressing they would have mopped up all the little groups of anti westerners and created what would have been an uncontrollable monster. They have more form than just damaging aircraft and once our final defence of the services is affected it goes one way only.
That is why they are and will be designated as terrorists. All these plebs deserve to be punished because I do not want to be looking over my shoulder or my friends and family for the next attack. These lot are the propaganda PA want and they don’t care about them. The higher the roof the better for PA.

 

[McAhuna]

Whoa let me give you a comparison of sorts. Not as brutal but look at Hamas when the Arab spring put them in power. Said they would work alongside the incumbent and then quite quickly proceeded to kill them and took full control and killed and caused the deaths of many 1000s of civilians in more than one country. The way PA were progressing they would have mopped up all the little groups of anti westerners and created what would have been an uncontrollable monster. They have more form than just damaging aircraft and once our final defence of the services is affected it goes one way only.
That is why they are and will be designated as terrorists. All these plebs deserve to be punished because I do not want to be looking over my shoulder or my friends and family for the next attack. These lot are the propaganda PA want and they don’t care about them. The higher the roof the better for PA.

I am not sure where you are getting this information?
What is the insinuation that PA are killers, or potential killers based on? Because it's quite a serious allegation to be casually throwing around.

Whatever your source is, the British government doesn't seem privy to it.
Because the British government only banned Palestine Action as a proscribed terrorist organisation from July 2025, following the security breach at RAF Brize Norton and the vandalism of a plane.
Even the word 'vandalism' seems a stretch. They threw some paint around.

You say they have "more form than just damaging aircraft"

Well, there are other examples of them spraying paint around and organising sit-ins.
E.g. On 14 June 2021, the fourth anniversary of the Grenfell Tower fire, an occupation protest was staged at an Arconic factory in Kitts Green, Birmingham by three protestors. Arconic provided the cladding that allowed the rapid spread of fire across Grenfell Tower, and according to Palestine Action provide "materials for Israel's fighter jets.
Arconic sound like a delightful company who probably deserve more than a 'sit-in', but that's the worst that PA did.

Protesters? Yes
Activists? Yes
Vandals? At a stretch
Justified? A matter of opinion
Terrorists? No, and we diminish the real horror of that word by throwing it around so casually.

Before you rush to celebrate the harsh measures applied to PA, its wise to remember the same logic is being applied to groups you might have more sympathy with.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Next, you'll be telling us that Walesa was non-binary and that the Gdansk uprising's main aim was the legalisation of full-term abortions.

Why on earth would I do that? I have little doubt the first is untrue and am absolutely certain the second is.

Walesa was a democrat and opponent of populism. He was hated by the right and mocked by the left for his conservative values.

We need to improve democracy, Lech Wałęsa says

Former Polish President and Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Lech Wałęsa, calls for systemic changes to safeguard democracy and avoid the rise of populist leaders. #TheEuropeConversation

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