Tommy Robinson

[Teddy Eagle]

No they aren’t!

Most people understand only too well why it’s needed. Only the really ignorant oppose all immigration.

Except in Cornwall of course where immigration isn't necessary let alone at a figure equalling 50% of the population.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Very serious, you can't even tell us if the earth is in a warming phase or cooling phase, its laughable you think charging drivers £10 a day to drive in London has any effect. It's one big giant tax scam.

Picking out any single action as evidence of climate change just being a tax scam is so obviously stupid that it really needs no comment.

I don’t come into London very often but so far as I know the intention behind the levy is to encourage the use of public transport. Reducing emissions helps not just mitigate climate change, albeit in a tiny way on its own, it produces a healthier environment and less congestion.

The earth is undoubtedly in a rapid warming phase, unquestionably caused by man’s activity since the Industrial Revolution.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Except in Cornwall of course where immigration isn't necessary let alone at a figure equalling 50% of the population.

It’s very much needed here. Our health services would collapse without it.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It’s very much needed here. Our health services would collapse without it.

A total of less than 5% and they're all doctors and nurses. That certainly gives a full picture of the situation in the rest of the country.

 

[Common Sense Club]

Picking out any single action as evidence of climate change just being a tax scam is so obviously stupid that it really needs no comment.

I don’t come into London very often but so far as I know the intention behind the levy is to encourage the use of public transport. Reducing emissions helps not just mitigate climate change, albeit in a tiny way on its own, it produces a healthier environment and less congestion.

The earth is undoubtedly in a rapid warming phase, unquestionably caused by man’s activity since the Industrial Revolution.

And therein lays the problem, effectively shutting down any debate because somebody says something is unquestionable…the rest of us have other theories.

 

[georgenorman]

It’s very much needed here. Our health services would collapse without it.

"... asserting manifest absurdities as if they were self-evident truths" [Enoch Powell, 1970]

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Or perhaps it’s ignorant to not notice that this is a reason to tax us.
So how much climate change is caused by man and how much is caused by nature and natural cosmic events? Ask your climate expert.

I am no longer in contact with her. She has worked in both China and New Zealand since I was in touch and is now at Oxford University heading a department there advising major businesses on how to plan their futures.

This idea that climate change is just an excuse to raise tax is so obviously ridiculous it hardly needs an answer.

The changing weather patterns alongside the rising sea temperatures and melting glaciers is more than enough evidence that the observations of climate scientists from all over the world are correct.

Climate change is no longer a theory. It has now become an established fact. Everything we are now observing is man made. Natural change is so slow that it cannot be observed as it happens. It can only be detected over extended periods.

 

[rikz]

Picking out any single action as evidence of climate change just being a tax scam is so obviously stupid that it really needs no comment.

I don’t come into London very often but so far as I know the intention behind the levy is to encourage the use of public transport. Reducing emissions helps not just mitigate climate change, albeit in a tiny way on its own, it produces a healthier environment and less congestion.

The earth is undoubtedly in a rapid warming phase, unquestionably caused by man’s activity since the Industrial Revolution.

It doesnt produce a healthier environment at all, it encourages more people to use the underground, where the air is something like 6x worse than overground.

Undoubtedly in a rapid warming phase ? Says who ? Because I've read from experts who say its in a cooling phase, ive also read from experts who belive the earth regulates its own temperature. So what experts am I supposed to listen to ?

 

[Common Sense Club]

I am no longer in contact with her. She has worked in both China and New Zealand since I was in touch and is now at Oxford University heading a department there advising major businesses on how to plan their futures.

This idea that climate change is just an excuse to raise tax is so obviously ridiculous it hardly needs an answer.

The changing weather patterns alongside the rising sea temperatures and melting glaciers is more than enough evidence that the observations of climate scientists from all over the world are correct.

Climate change is no longer a theory. It has now become an established fact. Everything we are now observing is man made. Natural change is so slow that it cannot be observed as it happens. It can only be detected over extended periods.

This idea that climate change is just an excuse to raise tax is so obviously ridiculous it hardly needs an answer.
…again you are trying to shut down debate by implying that something is unquestionable. Thank god there are people around who do question things.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

And therein lays the problem, effectively shutting down any debate because somebody says something is unquestionable…the rest of us have other theories.

That some people have other theories is also unquestionable! Not the “rest” though! Just some outliers.

That other theories exist is as old as time. They are inevitable but that doesn’t mean they are valid, let alone correct.

I am not shutting down debate at all. It’s unquestionably true for me and, I believe, to the vast majority, that man made climate change is real. No one I have any respect for questions it.

You can believe whatever you wish. That’s your prerogative. However, I won’t be joining you and nor do I think will most others in the world, other than those selfish enough to postpone action and pass the burden down.

This is just too important to be delayed by the drag of climate change denial. It’s yet another good reason why Reform needs to be stopped from ever getting even a finger on the wheel of power. Suggesting that it’s just “too expensive “ to tackle climate change is populism at its worst. It needs to be exposed and will be. When people understand that Reform will roll back all that’s been done they will quickly become disillusioned.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

This idea that climate change is just an excuse to raise tax is so obviously ridiculous it hardly needs an answer.
…again you are trying to shut down debate by implying that something is unquestionable. Thank god there are people around who do question things.

pot and kettle. Tommy Robinson Thread. Getting filled with irrelevant shyte about Climate Change.......

plus my own unwelcome contribution to match you all.............Tapioca Pudding. I am trolling less than all of you cos i have actually mentioned the subject of the OP.

TR eating Tapioca Pudding.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

This idea that climate change is just an excuse to raise tax is so obviously ridiculous it hardly needs an answer.
…again you are trying to shut down debate by implying that something is unquestionable. Thank god there are people around who do question things.

Don’t be ridiculous. The only one trying to shut down the debate is he who doesn’t accept the diversion!

Climate change just being an excuse to raise tax is such a transparently silly argument I don’t think many need to read an answer. That doesn’t mean that silly arguments can’t be made though. That’s your decision!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Don’t be ridiculous. The only one trying to shut down the debate is he who doesn’t accept the diversion!

Climate change just being an excuse to raise tax is such a transparently silly argument I don’t think many need to read an answer. That doesn’t mean that silly arguments can’t be made though. That’s your decision!

The congestion charge is patently not a money making scheme when electric cars will be paying £11.25 to drive in London from next January.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

The congestion charge is patently not a money making scheme when electric cars will be paying £11.25 to drive in London from next January.

Tapioca Pudding for Tommy Robinson. I am trolling less than you. Annoying isnt it.

A deliberate ploy to Troll the Tommy Robinson thread with irrelevant shyte ?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Tapioca Pudding for Tommy Robinson. I am trolling less than you. Annoying isnt it.

Not in the slightest but I don't like tapioca so you can have my share. Enjoy it in good health.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

A total of less than 5% and they're all doctors and nurses. That certainly gives a full picture of the situation in the rest of the country.

It doesn't.

I googled "what proportion of uk working visas are for health professionals" and got this response:-

"The Home Office granted 350,000 'Health and Care' visas in 2023 in total, including dependants, compared to 118,000 skilled visas in other sectors. This means the share of Skilled Worker visas going to health and care roles jumped from 58% in 2022 to 75% in 2023."

Of course there are other legal immigrant categories, primarily family visas and student visas, but in this context they must be disregarded.

So 75% of those we are bringing here to fill skilled vacancies are as a consequence of shortages in the health care sector. Not just doctors and nurses either. Care assistants, midwives and other clinical roles are also involved.

More recently there have been restrictions on dependents, especially at the lower salaries end. This has the potential to backfire as I know some are now thinking of relocating to other places that take a more sympathetic line. There have also been budget restraints which have meant overseas recruitment has been indefinitely suspended, causing staff shortages, strain on over worked staff and inevitable longer waiting lists.

So the political need to be seen to be "doing something about immigration" has consequences which hurt the needy and no doubt will generate further moaning without any linkage being seen.

 

[beak]

The congestion charge is patently not a money making scheme when electric cars will be paying £11.25 to drive in London from next January.

I only go to London if friends suggest that a Tap Room is worth a visit,that rules out taking the car as the Treacle ,Tapioca and custard stout is usually a mortgage amount of money obviously delivery must cost a lot as I stand next to the vat it was brewed in. So in finality that £11.25 buys a half.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The congestion charge is patently not a money making scheme when electric cars will be paying £11.25 to drive in London from next January.

I agree it seems illogical. Perhaps it's part of the general effort to reduce congestion and increase the use of public transport?

 

[beak]

I agree it seems illogical. Perhaps it's part of the general effort to reduce congestion and increase the use of public transport?

Public Transport running around London empty is even more illiogical!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It doesnt produce a healthier environment at all, it encourages more people to use the underground, where the air is something like 6x worse than overground.

Undoubtedly in a rapid warming phase ? Says who ? Because I've read from experts who say its in a cooling phase, ive also read from experts who belive the earth regulates its own temperature. So what experts am I supposed to listen to ?

Our environment extends well beyond that which exists on tube trains. You are exposed to much greater levels of pollutants just sitting in your car in a city. It might be better on the top floor of a tower block but not at ground level on a congested highway.

Who are these "experts" denying the consensus? There are always some who claim to know better but their ideas can usually be safely disregarded. So let's know who they are and what they have said.

You are supposed to listen to those who are recognised and accepted by proffessional associations and honoured by their peers. Trust the consensus. Not the fringes. Don't ignore the fringes. Evaluate their arguments by all means in case they have found things of value. If they have then peer review will confirm it and change the debate.