Tommy Robinson

[PalazioVecchio]

He’s been banned from his mosque

so, let me get this straight. The bloke in the hat got banned from his mosque. Cos he was quoting the nice friendly peaceful bits of his holy book ? And that those quotes were at variance to the angry violent quotes from other chapters ?

funny enough, that mirrors the Christian Wars we had in Europe for 400 years.......different interpretations of the same Bible.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

His "glittering" career was in sales , never a C suite executive. Of course he does a Rachel Reeves on his CV to self promote. I recall it was food additives or something similar. The Philipinnes is where companies send people who can't make the grade in the other Asian countries. Last chance saloon for failed expats

What has his arrogant claim of being a company MD and ‘knowing how companies work’ got to do with him defending institutions that didn’t address Muslim grooming gangs? Absolutely f all as usual.

 

[Badger11]

What has his arrogant claim of being a company MD and ‘knowing how companies work’ got to do with him defending institutions that didn’t address Muslim grooming gangs? Absolutely f all as usual.

That's a bit unfair, most company seniors know how to cover up their internal scandals, if they don't they wont last long. 😀

 

[cryrst]

so, let me get this straight. The bloke in the hat got banned from his mosque. Cos he was quoting the nice friendly peaceful bits of his holy book ? And that those quotes were at variance to the angry violent quotes from other chapters ?

funny enough, that mirrors the Christian Wars we had in Europe for 400 years.......different interpretations of the same Bible.

This is what I said in the past. Islam is 500 years behind us with their beliefs. It will take a good few years for them not to live by their book !

 

[Stirlingsays]

This is what I said in the past. Islam is 500 years behind us with their beliefs. It will take a good few years for them not to live by their book !

The Qu'ran makes it explicitly clear that assimilation into other cultures is prohibited. Same as leaving the religion.

You can be peaceful, while you are in the minority, but you must not assimilate.

Sure, lots of Muslims aren't as pious as others, just the same as any other religion, but there will always be a core.....again, the same as any other religion. Compared to Christiainity, the potential to turn into this harmless version is more limited.

There is no separation of religion and state in Islam as there is in Christianity ('So give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.'). It's a whole package and that's made clear.....a lot of dim, uneducated people, who have never known conflict, just assume that every religion is the same.

Take the middle east for example.....It was mainly Christian, and now in most countries it's high 90s percent Islam. That wasn't an accident.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

During any time of national crisis the government is bound to control the agenda.

In today’s world that’s much more challenging than it used to be because there really is misinformation that sweeps across the internet which has its origins in places that seek to harm us.

No one wants to curtail reasoned arguments which are backed up by evidence from trusted and respected sources. What is necessary is to ensure that, if it is deemed important that we all follow rules and adopt behaviours that are in our collective best interests, they are followed.

That demands that misinformation is identified and separated from reasoned arguments. That some object and confuse them is as inevitable as the fact that others exploited distrust and monetised it. There are still some who cling to some of those ideas.

Of course when dealing with something like Covid, with unknown outcomes but catastrophic worse case scenarios, steps will be taken that are later seen as incorrect. That’s inevitable and why detailed enquiries are needed to learn as many lessons as possible.

Nor does it stop know it all posters on football fan forums claiming they were right all along.

But misinformation is a subjective concept. When the government spread misinformation about Covid you supported the decision since you thought it was in the national interest while others didn't.
There is no news story critical of the US president or Tommy Robinson which you won't not only believe but endorse without considering they might be misinformation.

 

[Mattconrov]

But misinformation is a subjective concept. When the government spread misinformation about Covid you supported the decision since you thought it was in the national interest while others didn't.
There is no news story critical of the US president or Tommy Robinson which you won't not only believe but endorse without considering they might be misinformation.

I think it will take a lot of drilling through Wisbechs outer crust, for him to understand what you've said.

I don't believe there is a drill strong enough.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

This is what I said in the past. Islam is 500 years behind us with their beliefs. It will take a good few years for them not to live by their book !

Many have speculated on it becoming modern & peaceful, like Christianity. There is, of course, an alternative course of events that could happen. Christianity to take a backward step and become as it was a thousand years ago. Fire, brimstone, cavalry and all.

Many religions have a history of persecuting non-believers.

Christian versus pagan: was Charlemagne’s conquest of Saxony the first crusade? – Historia Magazine

Angus Donald examines Charlemagne’s conquest of Saxony in the late 8th century. It was a campaign not just about territory but about religion: Christian versus pagan. Could it be considered the first 'crusade'?

historiamag.com

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

What has his arrogant claim of being a company MD and ‘knowing how companies work’ got to do with him defending institutions that didn’t address Muslim grooming gangs? Absolutely f all as usual.

What on earth is arrogant about the truth when told in response to a comment about knowing how companies protect themselves?

If you want to complain that the original comment was irrelevant to the subject then kindly address the original poster!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

But misinformation is a subjective concept. When the government spread misinformation about Covid you supported the decision since you thought it was in the national interest while others didn't.
There is no news story critical of the US president or Tommy Robinson which you won't not only believe but endorse without considering they might be misinformation.

Misinformation is not subjective in any way. Lies are lies. Misinformation is simply lies presented as information.

The government didn’t spread misinformation. They managed information in ways to ensure compliance. Never lies.

Of course there are critical news stories about Trump and Y-L that I don’t believe. They generally don’t though appear on the MSM, more often on YouTube. If they ever got mentioned here I might respond, who knows?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Many have speculated on it becoming modern & peaceful, like Christianity. There is, of course, an alternative course of events that could happen. Christianity to take a backward step and become as it was a thousand years ago. Fire, brimstone, cavalry and all.

Many religions have a history of persecuting non-believers.

Christian versus pagan: was Charlemagne’s conquest of Saxony the first crusade? – Historia Magazine

Angus Donald examines Charlemagne’s conquest of Saxony in the late 8th century. It was a campaign not just about territory but about religion: Christian versus pagan. Could it be considered the first 'crusade'?

historiamag.com

If Andrew Torba has his way it’s on its way!

Not though with Islam it it’s sights. Read this epistle from today. I wonder how the apologists of Zionism will react to their hard right brother writing this:-

A Christian Declaration of Independence - Gab News

A line has been crossed in the conscience of the American Christian. The theological and political chains that bound us to a foreign agenda, crafted not in

news.gab.com

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Misinformation is not subjective in any way. Lies are lies. Misinformation is simply lies presented as information.

The government didn’t spread misinformation. They managed information in ways to ensure compliance. Never lies.

Of course there are critical news stories about Trump and Y-L that I don’t believe. They generally don’t though appear on the MSM, more often on YouTube. If they ever got mentioned here I might respond, who knows?

And who decides what is a lie and what isn't? All you're doing is choosing what you want to believe with the added cop out when those "lies" turn out to be true that no one knew at the time. The idea that managing information to ensure compliance is any different to lying is just logic chopping.
This belief in some malign influencers having so much opinion is a conspiracy theory too far.

 

[Mattconrov]

And who decides what is a lie and what isn't? All you're doing is choosing what you want to believe with the added cop out when those "lies" turn out to be true that no one knew at the time. The idea that managing information to ensure compliance is any different to lying is just logic chopping.
This belief in some malign influencers having so much opinion is a conspiracy theory too far.

Old Wisbech is something else, isn't he.

He's twisting himself in knots thinking he's right.

I feel sorry for us that have to explain the bleeding obvious. Lol

 

[georgenorman]

Old Wisbech is something else, isn't he.

He's twisting himself in knots thinking he's right.

I feel sorry for us that have to explain the bleeding obvious. Lol

He doesn't believe in half of what he says, he's merely a wind-up merchant.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

And who decides what is a lie and what isn't? All you're doing is choosing what you want to believe with the added cop out when those "lies" turn out to be true that no one knew at the time. The idea that managing information to ensure compliance is any different to lying is just logic chopping.
This belief in some malign influencers having so much opinion is a conspiracy theory too far.

Nobody can decide what is true or what isn’t! That’s no better than a suggestion there can be alternative facts. Things are either true or they aren’t.

That’s not to say that people cannot make honest mistakes about what they believe. Misinformation is the deliberate use of lies for malignant purposes. The government’s purposes were not malignant. Nor did they lie. They managed how information was presented.

If you truly don’t accept that many of the pieces of misinformation that find their way into public consciousness via the web aren’t deliberately planted there by bad actors then you haven’t been paying attention.

Over 30% of internet traffic today is by malicious bots. Most trying to disrupt or distort but some are spreading fake news or disinformation. When this matches a prejudice it can be picked up and amplified. Thus the right are fed stories about the left and no doubt on occasions the left fed stories about the right. As encouraging populism seems to be preferred by people like Putin most of their attention is directed at providing weapons to the right.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Old Wisbech is something else, isn't he.

He's twisting himself in knots thinking he's right.

I feel sorry for us that have to explain the bleeding obvious. Lol

Except, of course, it isn’t “bleeding obvious” when it is misinformation.

All it is is yet another successful hit by those trying to undermine democracy.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

What on earth is arrogant about the truth when told in response to a comment about knowing how companies protect themselves?

If you want to complain that the original comment was irrelevant to the subject then kindly address the original poster!

Have a day off you waste of air.