Time to start doing Business Steve..!!

[PatrickA]

Nketiah being out for 2 months with a hamstring injury does change things,whatever posters think of him as a player.
It means if Mateta is out or substituted ( which he often is after 60 plus minutes) the options are to move Sarr into the middle or retain the inadequate Edouard to fill the gap.
Neither are appealing options.
This is why a player such as Guessand, who can play across the front 3 , would have been such a good addition to the squad.
Oh to find another Bolassie somewhere, a quick and powerful forward who defenders hate to face.

 

[rob1861]

You said previously was your last response on the matter - so why are you responding again..!!??

You say all posts are negative - what exactly is there to be positive about ATM..??

Some people that are not members read this forum and feel the need to join to voice their own opinions - they may seem negative to you, but that was the reason they joined - has that not crossed your mind.

My point is just because their opinion differs from yours - does not make them any less a fan than you or I and they should not be vilified for only joining recently.

As you say everyone is entitled to their point of view irrespective of how long they have been members..!!

COYP

I said my last post was to the other poster and in my view there is lots to be positive about.

You are of course free to post your negative posts but remember your perspectives can affect other people so posting negative stuff can spread through the fan base. As a fan i personally want to look at the positives and lift the team (like we all did in the FA Cup final) rather than be down on what they are building.

I will post alternative views to the negative responses i see because i genuinely believe we are doing well. Look at the long term trend of Palace development over time. We are so much better than 15 years ago.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

I said my last post was to the other poster and in my view there is lots to be positive about.

You are of course free to post your negative posts but remember your perspectives can affect other people so posting negative stuff can spread through the fan base. As a fan i personally want to look at the positives and lift the team (like we all did in the FA Cup final) rather than be down on what they are building.

I will post alternative views to the negative responses i see because i genuinely believe we are doing well. Look at the long term trend of Palace development over time. We are so much better than 15 years ago.

As Simon Jordan used to say, if he signed Ronaldinho(best player in the world at the time) fans would still moan about the hot dogs, you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Every transfer window you get this, you would think this year winning the FA Cup would cut Parish some slack from the moaning. Yes we need players, but there has to be reasons why we’re not getting them in, if people can’t trust Parish now, they’re never going to.
Also the window’s not shut for 3 weeks, so plenty of time by our standards. Yes we all feel as no nothing fans it’s surely better to get business done early, but also not knowing sod all about how to go about transferring a player I think we should trust those that clearly do. As I’ve said many times before, it’s not like you can just pop in Tesco’s, swipe your card and walk out with a player

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

You said previously was your last response on the matter - so why are you responding again..!!??

You say all posts are negative - what exactly is there to be positive about ATM..??

Some people that are not members read this forum and feel the need to join to voice their own opinions - they may seem negative to you, but that was the reason they joined - has that not crossed your mind.

My point is just because their opinion differs from yours - does not make them any less a fan than you or I and they should not be vilified for only joining recently.

As you say everyone is entitled to their point of view irrespective of how long they have been members..!!

COYP

Try and get your head round this one, if nobody leaves, the starting 11 is nailed on, nobody is going to replace any of the first 11, everyone knows that, even future transfer options, so nobody 30m+ is going to join us to wait for the odd game, we need more back up players, the first 11 can hit the ground running, also the clubs that have more than the 25 allowed in their squad will want to offload some who haven't got in, like Chalobah who only got into Chelsea's 25 in the second new year selection, we have 4 loans options and possible bargains to bolster the squad before the window closes, and we will know which European competition we are, kapeesh?

 

[Willo]

As Simon Jordan used to say, if he signed Ronaldinho(best player in the world at the time) fans would still moan about the hot dogs, you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Every transfer window you get this, you would think this year winning the FA Cup would cut Parish some slack from the moaning. Yes we need players, but there has to be reasons why we’re not getting them in, if people can’t trust Parish now, they’re never going to.
Also the window’s not shut for 3 weeks, so plenty of time by our standards. Yes we all feel as no nothing fans it’s surely better to get business done early, but also not knowing sod all about how to go about transferring a player I think we should trust those that clearly do. As I’ve said many times before, it’s not like you can just pop in Tesco’s, swipe your card and walk out with a player

I wholeheartedly concur with these sentiments.
There are a plethora of factors involved and trying to secure a deal can be protracted, frustrating and can ultimately lead to abject disappointment.
I am reminded of the adage 'There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip'.

 

[Badger11]

As Simon Jordan used to say, if he signed Ronaldinho(best player in the world at the time) fans would still moan about the hot dogs, you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Every transfer window you get this, you would think this year winning the FA Cup would cut Parish some slack from the moaning. Yes we need players, but there has to be reasons why we’re not getting them in, if people can’t trust Parish now, they’re never going to.
Also the window’s not shut for 3 weeks, so plenty of time by our standards. Yes we all feel as no nothing fans it’s surely better to get business done early, but also not knowing sod all about how to go about transferring a player I think we should trust those that clearly do. As I’ve said many times before, it’s not like you can just pop in Tesco’s, swipe your card and walk out with a player

Yes but he didn't, he took us into bankruptcy.

 

[PatrickA]

I wholeheartedly concur with these sentiments.
There are a plethora of factors involved and trying to secure a deal can be protracted, frustrating and can ultimately lead to abject disappointment.
I am reminded of the adage 'There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip'.

While all this is true, it doesn’t help us going into a new season with Nketiah, Doucoure, Franca, Riad and possibly Sosa all out.

That’s largely a first team bench there and we’re looking stretched.

It’s easy to look for excuses for not doing things, but perhaps it would be better to proactively address squad shortcomings.

We must have enough ‘irons in the fire’ so that if one deal collapses we are in a position to complete an alternative deal as opposed to starting from scratch again.

 

[Willo]

While all this is true, it doesn’t help us going into a new season with Nketiah, Doucoure, Franca, Riad and possibly Sosa all out.

That’s largely a first team bench there and we’re looking stretched.

It’s easy to look for excuses for not doing things, but perhaps it would be better to proactively address squad shortcomings.

We must have enough ‘irons in the fire’ so that if one deal collapses we are in a position to complete an alternative deal as opposed to starting from scratch again.

With respect we are not on the same 'Page' apropos the Modus Operandi by our club regarding acquisitions.

 

[PatrickA]

With respect we are not on the same 'Page' apropos the Modus Operandi by our club regarding acquisitions.

Please expand.
Is it not prudent to have an advanced alternative option if the club can’t complete the preferred deal?
Presumably we have looked to cover the exposure if for some reason Guehi or Eze departs at a late stage as opposed to starting from scratch.

 

[Willo]

Please expand.
Is it not prudent to have an advanced alternative option if the club can’t complete the preferred deal?
Presumably we have looked to cover the exposure if for some reason Guehi or Eze departs at a late stage as opposed to starting from scratch.

I am reliably informed that the club does not resort to a 'Back to the drawing board' modus operandi in the event that a deal is not concluded.
There is a constant and incessant evaluation both during and outside the 'Windows'.

 

[PatrickA]

I am reliably informed that the club does not resort to a 'Back to the drawing board' modus operandi in the event that a deal is not concluded.
There is a constant and incessant evaluation both during and outside the 'Windows'.

Glasner seems to take the view that the 'constant and incessant evaluation' method isn't working too well.
He would prefer to have additional players.

 

[whatton]

No, I'm simply someone who's been following this club for 35 years and am beyond ecstatic with the position we're currently in. I honestly can't for the life of me understand negativity at a time like this.

Parish has overseen the best years of the club's history - he's helped bring gems like Guehi, Olise, Eze, Wharton, Munoz, Mateta to the club. He's brought Glasner to the club - arguably the best manager in our history - and all of this has seen us finish consistently mid table in the world's best league - AND win the first major trophy in our club's history.

Then, instead of taking a well earned holiday...his entire summer break has been spent working night and day on trying to keep us in Europe. No doubt he'll be leading the charge on our response to CAS. And with all this up in the air...because we haven't gone and signed 94 players, some on here vilify him and have the nerve to say we're a club going backwards. Are you serious? We couldn't have more momentum as a club if we tried. The reality is, we only need a couple more players - and I believe we'll get them.

It's not 'blind faith' in Parish - as you state. It's informed and educated faith, based on years of successful and prudent management of the football club.

Long story short....calm down. It's going to be fine.

Alright, but apart from saving the club, winning us promotion to the Premier League and keeping us there for 13 years, bringing gems like Guehi, Olise, Eze, Wharton, Munoz, Mateta to the club, bringing arguably the best manager in our history to our club, winning the FA Cup, getting us into Europe, and spending all his entire summer break working night and day on trying to keep us in Europe….

what has Steve Parish ever done for us?

 

[Willo]

Glasner seems to take the view that the 'constant and incessant evaluation' method isn't working too well.
He would prefer to have additional players.

Glasner has made his preferences known.In an 'Ideal world' the club would have already acquired more players but I can only reiterate that this whole process involves a plethora of factors and moving parts.No 'Magic wand' to expedite a purchase !

 

[blackgirl3]

As Simon Jordan used to say, if he signed Ronaldinho(best player in the world at the time) fans would still moan about the hot dogs, you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Every transfer window you get this, you would think this year winning the FA Cup would cut Parish some slack from the moaning. Yes we need players, but there has to be reasons why we’re not getting them in, if people can’t trust Parish now, they’re never going to.
Also the window’s not shut for 3 weeks, so plenty of time by our standards. Yes we all feel as no nothing fans it’s surely better to get business done early, but also not knowing sod all about how to go about transferring a player I think we should trust those that clearly do. As I’ve said many times before, it’s not like you can just pop in Tesco’s, swipe your card and walk out with a player

wise words its really easy to sign crap players ,not that we have ever done that lol!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

wise words its really easy to sign crap players ,not that we have ever done that lol!

Of course not but there were a few we crapified after they'd signed.

 

[PatrickA]

Glasner has made his preferences known.In an 'Ideal world' the club would have already acquired more players but I can only reiterate that this whole process involves a plethora of factors and moving parts.No 'Magic wand' to expedite a purchase !

Perhaps go for Plan B first, recognising that we're unlikely to get Plan A.
It's a thought!

 

[Talvlad]

the only thing that bothers me is that I think we should still be signing the best young Championship talent, so am a little surprised we haven't signed anyone like that yet (not that I know who it would be).

On the plus side, still plenty of time to get some Chelsea players from their C-Team squad in on loan.

 

[NEILLO]

I was going to swerve contributing any more to this thread, but here goes...

I'm disappointed - and a little surprised - that we haven't added more to the squad so far.

But that would be for ' squad players ' - back up's in case of need. Which we are increasingly in need of given that we now have a number of injuries. But in signing that type of player, you still have that player on the books even when the injured players return. So I think the loan market is a prudent solution.

Bear in mind also that the contributions last season of Doucoure, Franca and Riad were minimal. None of them are ' starters ' while we have our best eleven available. So I contend that they are only really missed from a numbers perspective.

I've said it before, some on here agree, some don't, that we have had a number of disrupters to contend with this summer. The UEFA debacle, the changes at Board level and the uncertainty around Guehi and Eze.

If you look at the financials, I don't think we can afford to spend big money - I'm talking in the region of £30m+ on players unless they are either potentially as good as what we have or better - unless we lose Guehi and or Eze. Then that would be straight forward replacements. Guessand is going to Villa for a £30m package. Our reported interest in him seems to have driven the price right up. At the talked about £20m fee I think he would have been a good signing given his versatility and provided genuine competition up front. At another £10m - in my opinion - that ceases to be the case.

I've said I'll judge the window when it closes and I stand by that.

As for the criticisms of Steve Parish, well guess what - he's not perfect. He makes mistakes. Things don't always work out as he would like.

But to call him '' average '' is insulting and doesn't take into account the clubs achievements over the last 15 years.

 

[mtp1958]

Alright, but apart from saving the club, winning us promotion to the Premier League and keeping us there for 13 years, bringing gems like Guehi, Olise, Eze, Wharton, Munoz, Mateta to the club, bringing arguably the best manager in our history to our club, winning the FA Cup, getting us into Europe, and spending all his entire summer break working night and day on trying to keep us in Europe….

what has Steve Parish ever done for us?

he has never made me a coffee , I cant forgive him for that 😉

 

[Steval]

Same old -Parish every season, Waits until everyone else has done business. Then maybe picks up from who no one else wants, He does not like signing early and paying the 3 months wages before the season starts, Its a joke, I am so frustrated, 17 senior players + under 21s to cope with the League, Cup and Europe, Its Pathetic, I am sure he will get someone late, and we will have a similar start to last season. Based on that I am sure Glasner won't be around after this season