The Politics of 'Climate-change'

[Teddy Eagle]

Doesn't matter others do not.

Only matters we do.

If those responsible for the other 99%+ don't join in then it matters a bit.

 

[cryrst]

The vast, vast majority of people driving to London are not doing so out of necessity to make ends meet - that's nonsense framing.

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Prob 50% could be tradesman. Is that not necessity ?

 

[HKOwen]

Not us as a single country us as humankind.

You should protest outside the Chinese and Indian embassies

 

[HKOwen]

Because it's comparing apples and oranges - a news helicopter covering a one off event is not equivalent nor comparable to millions of individuals making daily/regular journeys in their car.

Climate policy is about reducing the biggest sources of emissions across society, not pretending every single activity must have identical rules nor that nothing which causes emissions can ever take place.

The absurdity of having helicopter coverage of that train is almost beyond words, compounded by the reason.

In bold, yes, nothing wrong with Emma Thompson donning protest chic and flying across the atlantic to attend a climate rally in London.

We miss the point with these zealots, it's about doing as they say, not as they do.

 

[HKOwen]

The vast, vast majority of people driving to London are not doing so out of necessity to make ends meet - that's nonsense framing.

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This is an opinion, or do you have anything factual to support this?

 

[HKOwen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2069043298035986885

I guess it's climate friendly to deploy helicopters to look at a train 🤷🏻‍♂️

Excellent use of license fee, same helicopter used for Cliff Richard?

Defund these self abusers

 

[silvertop]

If those responsible for the other 99%+ don't join in then it matters a bit.

Statistically, yes. Of course.

However, very bad things have been allowed to happen when they could have been stopped because X claims that Y isn't doing anything so why should we.

Even if you are a lone beacon in a sea of short termism, do it anyway. Others will follow.

Big money does not like Green. It has high upfront cost and poorer immediate returns for them. Hence the fake news of climate change denial, pro fossil fuel lobbying etc. However, there will come a time when fossil fuel will begin to run low and be more expensive to extract. Do not be surprised if the media skepticism evaporates as big money sees a threshold is crossed when the margins for Green exceed those of fossil fuel.

 

[HKOwen]

Statistically, yes. Of course.

However, very bad things have been allowed to happen when they could have been stopped because X claims that Y isn't doing anything so why should we.

Even if you are a lone beacon in a sea of short termism, do it anyway. Others will follow.

Big money does not like Green. It has high upfront cost and poorer immediate returns for them. Hence the fake news of climate change denial, pro fossil fuel lobbying etc. However, there will come a time when fossil fuel will begin to run low and be more expensive to extract. Do not be surprised if the media skepticism evaporates as big money sees a threshold is crossed when the margins for Green exceed those of fossil fuel.

Meantime the country is losing manufacturing because of the high energy costs, data centre companies are well aware of this

 

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[Spindle]

I don't think many here deny climate change. It's more the politics of it that includes taxing us more and then the double standards of the elites lecturing us, while taking their private jets and boats around the world.

Sure, but that's no excuse to do nothing.

 

[Spindle]

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You can laugh but heatwaves are killers. You're guaranteed to have a high death toll from this one.

 

[eaglesdare]

Sure, but that's no excuse to do nothing.

I agree. I've recently had solar panels installed. It gives me hot water all day and we are saving up to convert the oil to a heat pump.

 

[beak]

If those responsible for the other 99%+ don't join in then it matters a bit.

So doing the right thing is not within your grasp. It was a very British thing once.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

So doing the right thing is not within your grasp. It was a very British thing once.

So was making other people do the right thing but you frown upon that sort of thing.

 

[beak]

So was making other people do the right thing but you frown upon that sort of thing.

The Labour Party always do the right thing .

 

[cryrst]

You can laugh but heatwaves are killers. You're guaranteed to have a high death toll from this one.

drink and prescription drugs kill more and heatwaves are and have always been around. We weren’t there for the past zillion.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

The Labour Party always do the right thing .

But not at the right time or in the right place or for the right people or at the right price.

 

[beak]

But not at the right time or in the right place or for the right people or at the right price.

You are apologist for the riots in Epsom. Get used to Labour we will win the next G.E.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You are apologist for the riots in Epsom. Get used to Labour we will win the next G.E.

Your Epsomotitis seemed to have cleared up a bit but here it is still going full pelt.