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Matov said:
If it is true, and there is no real genuine verification at the moment so that has to be acknowledged, then I cannot see it bringing down the Government. The system does not work like that. Needs to an effective vote of no-confidence or the House to vote itself into an election. And that ain't going to happen in a million years for Labour with that majority (and to be fair, the same could be said for any government in that position.

Starmers position however...different kettle of fish. One of the reasons I am convinced both Wes Streeting and Angeal Rayner are distancing themselves from the assisted dying legislation. Both see it as a potential slipping stone in the future and both are angling for a possible leadership contest soon. However that is off topic so apologies.

If these allegations are even half-true then Starmer will be under pressure. But sadly we are stuck with this current shower of shite for a while longer although lets be honest, who would replace them? In the same interview that Starmer alludes to what we are discussing, he also says a lot of other stuff which in my opinion renders him and Reform unfit to govern. But again, a different topic.
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You mean Farage.
 
cryrst said:
You didn’t answer the actual question though. You blurred it again .
To ease your confusion what is hard right ?
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there is a big difference between a) what Lefties & the Media will Dub as being Far Right and b) the actual Far right.

The latter would certainly involve......

- holocaust denial
- white supremacy
- praise for Hitler and loads of other monsters
- antiSemitism
- homophobia
- racism

Considering Trump is strongly supported by US Jews, its rather ironic that the Media dub him a Nazi.
 
kevlee said:
This isn't the dynamite that is being suggested on X, believe me. The actual documents are public record, you just have to know where to find them. Embarrassing yes, but no more.
What I'm surprised no one has mentioned is that the accused has dual citizenship, UK and Rwanda, and so just like Shamima Begum, can be deported or be stripped on their UK citizenship.
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Yes he can be stripped of UK Cutizenship. However as he is in the UK the chances of removing him are virtually nil. The difference between him and SB is tgat she was abroad when stripped of her citizenship
 
Foxy82 said:
Minimum of 52 years, I hope he doesn't even come close to living it
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i hope he does. The fecker doesn't deserve to exit the building quickly, Harold Shipman style. He deserves to sit and rot for a very long time. I hope he lives to age 95 and hates every day of it. Regularly seeing other prisoners packing their bags, smiling and heading back to the real World. While he stays inside, terrified and lonely.
The big hard man didnt show any remorse. Well then, lets see who is hard and tough then ?
 
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I am not a soft leftie but I genuinely ask - where do we go, as a society, from here? We are all outraged by what happened in Southport. But it goes on every day all over our country, and elsewhere as well. Something very fundamental has to change in humankind’s attitude.
Someone earlier said - string him up. Well we couldn’t have done that as he was under age!
Others will rage against his colour. Just remember that Mary Bell, Thompson and Venables are all white.
I have no solution but I do believe mankind is fast approaching a crossroads.
 
totoshkin said:
I am not a soft leftie but I genuinely ask - where do we go, as a society, from here? We are all outraged by what happened in Southport. But it goes on every day all over our country, and elsewhere as well. Something very fundamental has to change in humankind’s attitude.
Someone earlier said - string him up. Well we couldn’t have done that as he was under age!
Others will rage against his colour. Just remember that Mary Bell, Thompson and Venables are all white.
I have no solution but I do believe mankind is fast approaching a crossroads.
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My anger and support of the death penalty has nothing to do with his colour. Just listen to what he did to those innocent girls. If he was old enough to have ricin, buy a knife on line and read a terrorist manual, then he is old enough to hang
 
Spiderman said:
My anger and support of the death penalty has nothing to do with his colour. Just listen to what he did to those innocent girls. If he was old enough to have ricin, buy a knife on line and read a terrorist manual, then he is old enough to hang
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Believe me In am as angry and distressed as anyone. But what does a responsible society do to prevent more heartbreak in the future. Reactionary response, whilst understandable will not get us out of this hole.
 
Spiderman said:
If he was old enough to have ricin, buy a knife on line and read a terrorist manual, then he is old enough to hang
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death is too good for him. Go and watch that documentary about the 'black Dolphin' prison in Russia. Now that is a proper punishment. The fellas in that prison yearn to die, and never get it.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
death is too good for him. Go and watch that documentary about the 'black Dolphin' prison in Russia. Now that is a proper punishment. The fellas in that prison yearn to die, and never get it.
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That is one of the scariest places ever. How anybody survives there with no prospect of release is beyond me.
 
Rudukabana has murdered 3 young children and severely injured several other people. His actions were also the cause of the disorder seen in the summer that resulted in many people being sent to prison.

There will be a lot of people within the prison population who will be out to get him.
 
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