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silvertop said:
It's obvious why they didn't and the ensuing riots proved that.

Also, possessing terrorism "how to" books does not make him an Islamic terrorist. It makes him a complete nutter. Not someone fighting for a world Caliphate. I suspect he was more likely to be attracted by their methods and would have no clue what their end game is. Thus, he could have quite easily accessed the abundance of "far right" or special forces material online.

I do of course agree the two tier approach as fundamentally wrong while, annoyingly, understanding the reason why it exists. The right/white are better containable. The other/brown are not. This country is in deep as it is. The last thing it needs is the cost of cleaning up after another 1981.
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Thanks for confirming that mass immigration was the worst idea in British political history.
 
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silvertop said:
It's obvious why they didn't and the ensuing riots proved that.

Also, possessing terrorism "how to" books does not make him an Islamic terrorist. It makes him a complete nutter. Not someone fighting for a world Caliphate. I suspect he was more likely to be attracted by their methods and would have no clue what their end game is. Thus, he could have quite easily accessed the abundance of "far right" or special forces material online.

I do of course agree the two tier approach as fundamentally wrong while, annoyingly, understanding the reason why it exists. The right/white are better containable. The other/brown are not. This country is in deep as it is. The last thing it needs is the cost of cleaning up after another 1981.
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You 'suspect'? Or is this just wishful thinking?

And whilst I appreciate you acknowledge the two tier approach is wrong, I suspect your reasoning is actually the opposite.

The Right/White are actually seen as the genuine danger by the Establishment. Hence why they have to clamp down on them in the way they do. Where as the other/brown are not. Essentially clients of the Establishment who have encouraged them to flood into the country by way of trying to dilute the threat to the establishment who still fear that an organised white working class, as evidenced by the Trade Union movement pre Lady Thatcher, wielded far more power than any ethnic minority group in this country ever has.

Sadly, and I have had to do a 180 degree turn stance on this, the TU movements demise was the greatest blow the white working class in this country ever suffered and is now so riddled with extreme left wing voices that it will never truly speak for us again in its current form.

I just hope something does emerge in the future that can replicate the expression of power again but sadly do not have the answers at the moment.

But multiculturalism has not only failed, it has made our children less safe. It has to reversed or else we are finished as a nation. Might be already in fact.
 
Stirlingsays said:
I think few of us have little doubt that if this had been a right winger who had downloaded some violent manual from a banned right wing organisation, produced poison and then goes onto murder non European children that he would have been charged under the terrorism act.

We wouldn't be getting a mealy mouthed disconnect.

This comes across as political to me and the charge can be made that the people at the top of these organisations hold certain political beliefs that affect their judgement and/or have come under political influence.

We know for example that the civil service stopped Tory ministers from releasing documents on grooming gangs because of what was contained in them.

They aren't interested in what is best for you, they are interested in socially engineering what is best for their own ideologies and protecting it from inconvenient truths.
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And if it’s proved that he is an Islamist who did these things for ideological reasons then he will deserve every bit as much condemnation as your right winger.

The truth is that at present we have no idea of his motivations, whether political of any kind, or just a nut job. He might just as easily turn out to be a right wing extremist as anything else. We don’t know. We may never know if he ends up being sectioned.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
And if it’s proved that he is an Islamist who did these things for ideological reasons then he will deserve every bit as much condemnation as your right winger.

The truth is that at present we have no idea of his motivations, whether political of any kind, or just a nut job. He might just as easily turn out to be a right wing extremist as anything else. We don’t know. We may never know if he ends up being sectioned.
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“ might just as easily turn out to be a Right Wing extremist” did you really write this? Hilarious.
Of course he will now claim mental health issues, probably due to his parents ( not his) upbringing in Rwanda
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
And if it’s proved that he is an Islamist who did these things for ideological reasons then he will deserve every bit as much condemnation as your right winger.

The truth is that at present we have no idea of his motivations, whether political of any kind, or just a nut job. He might just as easily turn out to be a right wing extremist as anything else. We don’t know. We may never know if he ends up being sectioned.
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He might just as easily turn out to be a right wing extremist? How much dry sherry have you had today?

Mental heath is the favourite way to brush it under the carpet.
 
Spiderman said:
“ might just as easily turn out to be a Right Wing extremist” did you really write this? Hilarious.
Of course he will now claim mental health issues, probably due to his parents ( not his) upbringing in Rwanda
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Who knows until we know?

That’s the problem with rampant assumptions that people assume to be true and then act on them.

It may look improbable but until we know we must reserve judgement.
 
Rudi Hedman said:
He might just as easily turn out to be a right wing extremist? How much dry sherry have you had today?

Mental heath is the favourite way to brush it under the carpet.
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Brushed under the carpet or in full view on top it’s unfortunately a real issue which cannot be ignored.

I believe many of those holding what appear to be extreme right wing views actually have mental health problems.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Brushed under the carpet or in full view on top it’s unfortunately a real issue which cannot be ignored.

I believe many of those holding what appear to be extreme right wing views actually have mental health problems.
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And what are hard right views then?
If it’s not wanting immigration to continue as is then most of the population are clearly retards IYO.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
And if it’s proved that he is an Islamist who did these things for ideological reasons then he will deserve every bit as much condemnation as your right winger.

The truth is that at present we have no idea of his motivations, whether political of any kind, or just a nut job. He might just as easily turn out to be a right wing extremist as anything else. We don’t know. We may never know if he ends up being sectioned.
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Only on the presumption that being a terrorist and a nutcase are mutually exclusive states.
 
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