Southport

[Wisbech Eagle]

You think Axel could be a right wing extremist? You need help.

It doesn’t matter what I think! I am not involved. Only the police and the CPS are. They must be allowed to do their jobs without speculation from me, or anyone else.

We all need to learn that it’s necessary to avoid comment on any ongoing investigation as there is a serious risk of compromising a subsequent case.

At the moment he could be any number of things. Nothing should be ruled out.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

That’s not what he said, is it? Your statement regarding this animal possibly being a right wing extremist was ridiculous

Without anything being confirmed everything remains possible. That was the point made and it’s not ridiculous. It’s a fact. Speculation helps no one, but especially the victims.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

both the hard Left AND the hard Right are bonkers.

On that we agree.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

And what are hard right views then?
If it’s not wanting immigration to continue as is then most of the population are clearly retards IYO.

It isn’t, so they aren’t.

 

[cryrst]

It isn’t, so they aren’t.

You didn’t answer the actual question though. You blurred it again .
To ease your confusion what is hard right ?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It doesn’t matter what I think! I am not involved. Only the police and the CPS are. They must be allowed to do their jobs without speculation from me, or anyone else.

We all need to learn that it’s necessary to avoid comment on any ongoing investigation as there is a serious risk of compromising a subsequent case.

At the moment he could be any number of things. Nothing should be ruled out.

Then why does it matter what anyone else thinks?

 

[PalazioVecchio]

And what are hard right views then?
If it’s not wanting immigration to continue as is then most of the population are clearly retards IYO.

hard left or hard right....both of them...

- censoring free speech
- threatening violence at street protests

- sabotaging statues, sabotaging microphones of speakers,
- undemocratic, not respecting the outcome of votes, referenda, elections.

- racist......cos it cuts both ways

 

[Matov]

Lot of chatter about the Southport murders at the moment. Farage has been interviewed for a podcast and said he has been told that he cannot even use Parliamentary privilege to raise the subject along with stating he knows a lot more about what happened. There is a general implication the revelations will be revealed sooner rather than later and lots of appeals for people in the area to speak up (claims of non-discloure agreements having to be signed although I am not sure if they are part of the legal process in advance of a trial? Happy to be educated on this). Mhmmm. Not sure on this one. Clearly the backlash from the establishment to the uprisings that followed them was quite incredible so its clear they are rattled. Could be an interesting couple of weeks.

And again, R.I.P to the victims and a speedy recovery to those injured. This should never have happend.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Lot of chatter about the Southport murders at the moment. Farage has been interviewed for a podcast and said he has been told that he cannot even use Parliamentary privilege to raise the subject along with stating he knows a lot more about what happened. There is a general implication the revelations will be revealed sooner rather than later and lots of appeals for people in the area to speak up (claims of non-discloure agreements having to be signed although I am not sure if they are part of the legal process in advance of a trial? Happy to be educated on this). Mhmmm. Not sure on this one. Clearly the backlash from the establishment to the uprisings that followed them was quite incredible so its clear they are rattled. Could be an interesting couple of weeks.

And again, R.I.P to the victims and a speedy recovery to those injured. This should never have happend.

Not at all surprised. And NDA’s were brought up by the the staff etc at the school of the refugee boy interviewed by Tommy Robinson in the again banned video ‘Silenced’. I know you don’t like him but he has had his uses.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Lot of chatter about the Southport murders at the moment. Farage has been interviewed for a podcast and said he has been told that he cannot even use Parliamentary privilege to raise the subject along with stating he knows a lot more about what happened. There is a general implication the revelations will be revealed sooner rather than later and lots of appeals for people in the area to speak up (claims of non-discloure agreements having to be signed although I am not sure if they are part of the legal process in advance of a trial? Happy to be educated on this). Mhmmm. Not sure on this one. Clearly the backlash from the establishment to the uprisings that followed them was quite incredible so its clear they are rattled. Could be an interesting couple of weeks.

And again, R.I.P to the victims and a speedy recovery to those injured. This should never have happend.

My guess is they knew more about Axel and his family than they’re letting on. But it is still an ongoing case still to go to trial so…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857898786837717056

 

[Matov]

My guess is they knew more about Axel and his family than they’re letting on. But it is still an ongoing case still to go to trial so…

Yes but the murders, in and of their terrible consequences, are supposedly not the issue. Might not even be from what happened in this country but rather in Africa and how the family ended up being able to stay here. And the role of Starmer in that.

If true, then potentially f***ing dynamite. Wary of linking to anything directly because it is rather febrile out there at the moment with a lot of unreliable players seeming to be jostling to take the lead on exposing this (which does not mean it is not true by the way but still casts enough of a shadow at the moment).

Let's see. These murders clearly rattled the Government in a way that similar kinds of atrocities never seemed to so clearly something murky going on behind the scenes.

 

[eaglesdare]

Seems the story is filtering out on X about Southport. I won't put any links in case I get a knock on my door and arrested......

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Seems the story is filtering out on X about Southport. I won't put any links in case I get a knock on my door and arrested......

Bl00dy hell if this is true, it’s huge.

 

[Matov]

Seems the story is filtering out on X about Southport. I won't put any links in case I get a knock on my door and arrested......

I am not putting the links up because the claims are not verified. One in particular is very spurious. However, there is definitely something bad to come to light at some stage. Farage would not go on the record in the way he has without something pretty solid lurking in the background

 

[cryrst]

Yes but the murders, in and of their terrible consequences, are supposedly not the issue. Might not even be from what happened in this country but rather in Africa and how the family ended up being able to stay here. And the role of Starmer in that.

If true, then potentially f***ing dynamite. Wary of linking to anything directly because it is rather febrile out there at the moment with a lot of unreliable players seeming to be jostling to take the lead on exposing this (which does not mean it is not true by the way but still casts enough of a shadow at the moment).

Let's see. These murders clearly rattled the Government in a way that similar kinds of atrocities never seemed to so clearly something murky going on behind the scenes.

It did shock how quickly people were given bird and the fear it’s put on society to talk digitally. I haven’t a scooby what’s gone on but from the replies on here it’s some big s***.

 

[Matov]

It did shock how quickly people were given bird and the fear it’s put on society to talk digitally. I haven’t a scooby what’s gone on but from the replies on here it’s some big s***.

The general atmosphere of fear that the Establishments response to the Southport uprising generated is a nailed on definite. People are incredibly wary of voicing anything that might be seen as 'anti' the established narrative.

In and of itself, clearly a terrible thing but I also take some encouragement from the fact that when the dam does burst, the rage over it is going to be terrible to behold. And I think shows that people like Starmer and the people who supposedly 'oppose' him in Westminster are actually quite fearful themselves. Real power is expressed quietly. Creates as few ripples as possible. Quite the opposite of what we have seen. Yes you could argue that the blatant expression of what is by any definition a very clear multi-tier level of justice that exists in the UK is done without seemingly any sense of those behind it being anything else other than the most arrogant bastards going but for anybody with even a modicum of understanding how true power is expressed, then what we have seen is far removed from that. Potentially even a sign of panic behind the scenes.

One notion that seems to get expressed, time and time again, in almost any and every facet of political reporting/journalism worth considering as such is this sense of utter confusion in the heart of Government. That the people now running the country literally have less than zero idea of what to do with the levers of power to an extent we have never witnessed before. Which given how incompetent the last lot were, takes some doing.

 

[Ouzo Dan]

Just seen what is bubbling away on X, IF true there will probably be a snap election called, there is absolutely no way Labour with it's merry band of idiots can continue to govern.

I guess we'll only have to wait 48 hours or so before a foreign news agency breaks the story.
Will also be interesting to see how accurate the information I had on Rudakabana from the old website is.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Just seen what is bubbling away on X, IF true there will probably be a snap election called, there is absolutely no way Labour with it's merry band of idiots can continue to govern.

I guess we'll only have to wait 48 hours or so before a foreign news agency breaks the story.
Will also be interesting to see how accurate the information I had on Rudakabana from the old website is.

All I keep thinking on this is what his schoolmates said he kept saying to them, if you know what I mean.

 

[Matov]

Just seen what is bubbling away on X, IF true there will probably be a snap election called, there is absolutely no way Labour with it's merry band of idiots can continue to govern.

If it is true, and there is no real genuine verification at the moment so that has to be acknowledged, then I cannot see it bringing down the Government. The system does not work like that. Needs to an effective vote of no-confidence or the House to vote itself into an election. And that ain't going to happen in a million years for Labour with that majority (and to be fair, the same could be said for any government in that position.

Starmers position however...different kettle of fish. One of the reasons I am convinced both Wes Streeting and Angeal Rayner are distancing themselves from the assisted dying legislation. Both see it as a potential slipping stone in the future and both are angling for a possible leadership contest soon. However that is off topic so apologies.

If these allegations are even half-true then Starmer will be under pressure. But sadly we are stuck with this current shower of shite for a while longer although lets be honest, who would replace them? In the same interview that Starmer alludes to what we are discussing, he also says a lot of other stuff which in my opinion renders him and Reform unfit to govern. But again, a different topic.

 

[kevlee]

This isn't the dynamite that is being suggested on X, believe me. The actual documents are public record, you just have to know where to find them. Embarrassing yes, but no more.
What I'm surprised no one has mentioned is that the accused has dual citizenship, UK and Rwanda, and so just like Shamima Begum, can be deported or be stripped on their UK citizenship.