Save your hate for Liverpool …

crvenaeagle said:
That's the thing, there's so much hearsay about that "Guehi is fuming" or that he is "said to be releasing a statement concerning his disappointment" or that "Guehi is heartbroken and betrayed"

........who said? Besides some sports "journalists" and some people in Reddit?
It's not like this was a once in a lifetime opportunity and we stood in his way. He's going there either way, if not now then in three or eight months.
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Teuchel says he’s happy and playing well in camp
 
see_change said:
Save your hate for Liverpool

I think Steve nailed it . Please read everything before you hit reply .

Ok , palace , small fry , have two champion players who most people believe are happy to leave the club this window .

Eze and Geuhi . Palace make it obvious that for the right price they are willing to sanction their sale .

Eze for 68 and Geuhi for 40 ( only 1 year left and previous offers for 65-70 ). 40 ? Probably not unreasonable given the situation .

Given that Arsenal were happy to effectively meet Eze’s valuation , let’s assume Steve knows what he’s asking is close .

Palace make it pretty clear that they’re happy for Marc to leave on two conditions . Asking price met and Palace have time to get an adequate replacement .

Assume the same condition applies for Eze .

Glasner had also made it clear he wanted an early sale .

Every one knows that until a contract is signed , it can fall over . If you don’t know that you , well you should . We’ve seen that play out all the time including several times with palace .

So what do arsenal do . They come in with a realistic offer with plenty of time for palace to arrange a replacement . Palace accept the offer knowing now they have the money and time to get a suitable replacement . Leicester play hard ball , up their price , Palace can’t afford to over pay so they walk away from a player who really wanted to come , but it is a business and if you pay an inflated price this time then next time you have to negotiate a deal the club knows you’ll pay what they want .

Palace end up with Pino ( better player , cheaper price ) Eze and Arsenal get what they want and everyone’s happy .

Liverpool were you watching ….

Liverpool who spent over 400 mill now want to negotiate a deal to gain what is just over 1 % of their total spend while gaining one of the best CB’s in the EPL .

Liverpool know he wants to come , so what do Liverpool do ? Well Palace can’t force them to make an offer but they have clearly stated their two requirements

For all of those who say we should have anticipated this and should have acted earlier …
Maybe palace could go and buy a ready made replacement , but that’s not a player they need unless Marc leaves …..

If they do go out and buy a ready made replacement , Liverpool have palace over a barrel . They know Palace now have to sell . Does that make any sense at all from a business view point. Nup .

So what do Liverpool do ? they wait until the very last minute . Palace already replacements in mind , but as everyone ( including Liverpool ) knows , a deal can fall over at any time …

Two condition for the sale . Price and replacement . Price accepted but the replacement falls over , so Palace do what they’ve ALWAYS said they will do and pull the plug .

If Parish had gone ahead, he would have possibly lost his manager , alienated 80 % of the fans and also shown the big boys that you can push him around . Again he’s putting palace’s future first .

There are reasons for everything he does , you may not always agree with him ,

but ,

I always come away with the opinion he ends up making the right decision in most situations.

The villains in this are Liverpool .

They could have made a deal a month ago which would have made everyone happy , but they wanted to make sure they “ won “ the negotiation rather than having a win / win which would have had everyone ….. including the pundits , happy
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Like someone put it the other day to me, If Liverpool really wanted Marc Guehi they would not have left it to the day the transfer window shuts to make a poultry offer for Palace's captain and England regular while on the same day lavishing £125m on an unprofessional mercenary.

They tried to get one of the Worlds best defenders on the cheap and acted like they were doing everyone a favour by doing it then blamed Palace when the deal fell apart.
I hope Marc now sees out his contract and them joins Bayern or Real in the summer.
 
est1905 said:
Like someone put it the other day to me, If Liverpool really wanted Marc Guehi they would not have left it to the day the transfer window shuts to make a poultry offer for Palace's captain and England regular while on the same day lavishing £125m on an unprofessional mercenary.

They tried to get one of the Worlds best defenders on the cheap and acted like they were doing everyone a favour by doing it then blamed Palace when the deal fell apart.
I hope Marc now sees out his contract and them joins Bayern or Real in the summer.
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The chickens certainly came home to roost!
 
est1905 said:
Like someone put it the other day to me, If Liverpool really wanted Marc Guehi they would not have left it to the day the transfer window shuts to make a poultry offer for Palace's captain and England regular while on the same day lavishing £125m on an unprofessional mercenary.

They tried to get one of the Worlds best defenders on the cheap and acted like they were doing everyone a favour by doing it then blamed Palace when the deal fell apart.
I hope Marc now sees out his contract and them joins Bayern or Real in the summer.
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They could have signed him if they’d been prepared to transfer Gomez to us rather than to the Weed or AC Milan, both of whom missed out because we pulled the plug on the Guehi deal.
 
crvenaeagle said:
That's the thing, there's so much hearsay about that "Guehi is fuming" or that he is "said to be releasing a statement concerning his disappointment" or that "Guehi is heartbroken and betrayed"

........who said? Besides some sports "journalists" and some people in Reddit?
It's not like this was a once in a lifetime opportunity and we stood in his way. He's going there either way, if not now then in three or eight months.
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I heard it was someone close to Mark who is saying he’s angry

Maybe his barber ? Not happy with his cut and wanted something new ?
 
ex hibitionist said:
the OP makes a good point very well, however if we had got someone like Diomande in in July how much would Liverpool had dropped their offer for Guehi to? Not lower than £30 mil I'd say, so maybe be better to risk losing a few mil so as not to undermine the integrity of the squad and alarm the manager. But I don't think Guehi's all that p*ssed off he's staying, there's plenty of upside from guaranteed regular playing time and the choice of club and level of salary he'll get next summer, and we might get a fair price for him in Jan with big clubs trying to get in there before the summer.
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Although, hindsight is a wonderful thing, at that stage, (Mid July) say we get Diomande for £70 million, 5 seconds later Liverpool decide to buy a different CB (not Marc, for whatever reason) or stay with what they have for another season, or any number of circumstances that mean they dont end up making an offer on Marc, we have spent a bucket load of money where we didn't need to & have 2 top quality CB with only one position to fill.
 
Ex Dubai Eagle said:
Although, hindsight is a wonderful thing, at that stage, (Mid July) say we get Diomande for £70 million, 5 seconds later Liverpool decide to buy a different CB (not Marc, for whatever reason) or stay with what they have for another season, or any number of circumstances that mean they dont end up making an offer on Marc, we have spent a bucket load of money where we didn't need to & have 2 top quality CB with only one position to fill.
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Diomande was going for about £45m, Liverpool weren't the only ones interested in MG, we knew he wasn't renewing his contract, and we were never going to get less than £30m for him, and hindsight doesn't come into it, the situation had been developing for many months, up to a year.
 
ex hibitionist said:
Diomande was going for about £45m, Liverpool weren't the only ones interested in MG, we knew he wasn't renewing his contract, and we were never going to get less than £30m for him, and hindsight doesn't come into it, the situation had been developing for many months, up to a year.
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He could sign a new contract any time this season. If we perform as some pundits are predicting we could be that surprise club in the CL next year and MG may well want to be with us. For some it’s not all about the money!
 
cryrst said:
He could sign a new contract any time this season. If we perform as some pundits are predicting we could be that surprise club in the CL next year and MG may well want to be with us. For some it’s not all about the money!
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I don't think MG wanting to move is anything to do with money, just footballing ambition, but even if we do get top five, and it's not complete fantasy, with Real and Barca sniffing around I would say the chances of him staying are roughly zero.
 
Ex Dubai Eagle said:
oops.

Salah will probably get one anyway.
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You haven't read rule 34. "A deceased player may be retrospectively awarded a penalty if there is a clear and obvious reason a big team is behind"..."dependent on a VAR review when said team loses a player during the off season".."a full VAR review up to and including the date of death may be carried out at the request of some players or staff waving arms or complaining into the face of the on pitch referee".
As Merson says "them's the rules".
 
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