Sage in or out

[ASCPFC]

With recruitment - what's done is done. There is nothing we can do about that. What we have to do is make the best out of what we have. That's on the manager. We can't buy anyone until January - we have to make do and get the best results we can. We're not: that's on the manager.

 

[eaglesdare]

That's seems the sensible thing if the board have made that decision, especially with the six-pointer Coventry and Hull matches being the next two league games after the International Break. I do expect us to beat Hoffenheim on Thursday (even under Sage) but whoever is in charge is unlikely to get anything out of Liverpool.

I see your point. I however would like sage gone tomorrow morning. Paddy to take over and play the system / tactics the new manager will want / play. (Surely we have already sounded him out) So we get hoffenheim and Liverpool games to play the formation / tactics where there's no expectation to win and then the new manager to be announced the Monday after the liverpool game.

I think we did the same before glasner officially took over.

Obviously what I would like / want is neither here nor there 🤣

 

[Willo]

With recruitment - what's done is done. There is nothing we can do about that. What we have to do is make the best out of what we have. That's on the manager. We can't buy anyone until January - we have to make do and get the best results we can. We're not: that's on the manager.

Sage has made it abundantly clear that responsibility lies with him and him alone.

 

[doombear]

Sage lost it for me yesterday through his failure to readjust after the Mateta red card. There was no way we were going to get anything playing 522 or 531 because we were constantly being pressed and overrun in midfield. I'm no coach, just a simple watcher of football, but I would have thought that with 10 men you sacrifice a CB and beef up midfield and play compact in a 441, but then what do I know?

 

[thai-eagle]

I'm more or less resigned to us being relegated. I just can't see anyone getting a good enough team out of the players we presently have.

My great fear is this continues in the Championship. If it can happen to Leicester it can just as easily happen to us.

With Mateta out for the next three PL games - and probably leaving come January, we are in truly dire situation. WIth the trio of Nketiah, Guessand and JSL charing the striker's role - who the fu.k shall score for us? Think we need something special to avoid the drop out of Money League....change of manager probably a good start.

 

[eaglesdare]

I'm more or less resigned to us being relegated. I just can't see anyone getting a good enough team out of the players we presently have.

My great fear is this continues in the Championship. If it can happen to Leicester it can just as easily happen to us.

Even west ham are finding it a hard eld slog at the moment.

 

[eritheagle]

Even west ham are finding it a hard eld slog at the moment.

and let's not mention burnley!!

 

[DenTyler]

To those who want Sage to remain, what exactly are they seeing that I’m perhaps missing?
Do they honestly see him putting in a defensive structure to prevent the concession of a couple of goals a game?
Do they see him organising us so that every ball towards the far post is a heart in the mouth moment as opposing players peel away to the far post unchallenged?
The errors are that basic.

I know there is an argument that it’s the same players, so what difference does a new manager make.
Well I don’t have to take you to far back to Holloway being replaced by Pulis.
We looked a totally different proposition under Pulis as a defensive structure was put in place and the whole team was forged into a proper unit knowing exactly what it was doing.

It wasn’t rocket science.
Pulis recognised, unlike Holloway, we were not capable of playing like Barcelona (as noble an aspiration as that may be) and maximised the talents of the players available to him and got them playing to their strengths in an organised set up.

I am saying this as somebody who does not care one way or the other. If Sage turns it around, brilliant but I don't think he will because he is hindered by the cards dealt by the board.

Why people want him to stay has more to do with what might follow. A return to RoyBall.

I've got to say I will take that at the moment because I am tired of watching what we are watching at the moment and having someone like Spurs treat that win like they won the league is too much for me to take.

It is quite scary the lack of managers out there though and when the chips are down Parish will turn to a reset under a Dyche/Frank etc. For me if that is what we end up doing and saying that is the end of the Golden Cycle and we treat this as a back to basics re-set then Dyche is probably the best out there for that task.

f*** me though. How can we have been in the premier league so long and still be so close at all times to collapse. I watched Sunday Supplement this morning and they discussed Brighton. You can't argue that the structure there is superb and as they said, they can afford to get rid of there best players because the owner has full control and most importantly the 'Vision' to keep the train rolling on.

We should have moved forwards several steps after winning the FA cup. Money should have been available to make JPM the highest paid striker. Sarr should have been given more so he did not get his head turned so easily and an actual fixed sum agreed should either of there heads get turned. That is the main stays sorted. Max and Munoz should have been nowhere near being able to leave. When MG left the first priority should have been getting in a proper proven centre back. Not £18m a proper fully experienced centre back.

It would not have needed much. There was no stopping Eze and MG going but the rest is just self harm and shows the lack of vision at our club.

and yes I am aware that we have had it the best we have ever had it and I will always be grateful for that but f*** me the running of our club is f***ing shocking.