Sage in or out

[Teddy Eagle]

Yes, if the new manager plays that formation, i will hang up my Scarf and hat, 57 years watching is enough, UD Lanzarote for me, if that happens.

The club who are looking at Sage as their next manager?

 

[JHB]

Whoever becomes manager, if he looks at our decent squad, and says, i know i will play 3 at the back, with wingbacks, and 2 in CM, shoot him.

It is a bad system. It really is. My son is a Brentford fan and I took him to watch them beat Forest yesterday. It will be of no surprise to anyone that both Brentford goals came from them playing a wide player into space behind the wing back. It’s just such an easy system to play against.

 

[park the bus]

Selhurst Park meeting room. In attendance Steve Parish, his PA, and Sean Dyche:

SP: "Welcome to Selhurst Park Sean. You don't mind if I call you Sean? You can call me Steve. I think you know why I called you in for a little tete a tete today?"
SD: Well it's not rocket science Steve is it now? You're in the merde and you need someone with experience to help you find a way out of it."
SP "Very quaintly put Sean. I like your direct manner, if not you style of football, but needs be. When can you start?"

 

[Dogburger]

Sage has been sold down the river,notice Parish goes quiet when things start going tits up, I wouldn’t blame Sage for resigning but he seems a very honourable man.

He wont resign .

As you say Parish goes quiet when things are not going too well and he goes very quiet when he know its on him as to the reasons why .

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Selhurst Park meeting room. In attendance Steve Parish, his PA, and Sean Dyche:

SP: "Welcome to Selhurst Park Sean. You don't mind if I call you Sean? You can call me Steve. I think you know why I called you in for a little tete a tete today?"
SD: Well it's not rocket science Steve is it now? You're in the merde and you need someone with experience to help you find a way out of it."
SP "Very quaintly put Sean. I like your direct manner, if not you style of football, but needs be. When can you start?"

SD: This is a nice office. I'll have this.
SP: But it's mine.
SD: Was yours. Now do one.
SP: Of course. Sorry Sean.
SD: Still here? Now go and walk my whippet and send in Canvot.

 

[dynamicdick]

I don’t think it matters whether Sage stays or goes. The squad is so lightweight and threadbare by Premier League standards, and we seem to have an ambitionless board who aren’t interested in investing the requisite amount to bring the squad up to scratch.
We struggled to take on a recognised manager/head coach in the summer, and I don’t see that there are too many out there that would want to risk their reputation now. I might be wrong of course. It’s only my opinion, for what it’s worth.
But I do get the impression that all of the recruitment is down to Messrs Parish and Hobbs, which does not inspire me with any confidence at all. If you’re asking a manager/head coach to get us out of this current mess then surely he needs to have some input into the recruitment.

I disagree that the squad is light and threadbare and as said before we have a lot more depth than last season. It’s up to the manager and coaches to implement a structure that makes us hard to beat first and foremost plus have the capabilities to counter. Getting the best out of players and importantly motivating them. In the background we have made some poor decisions one of which seems to be Guessand, why get him back and with it a loan fee of a few million I guess for him to be out of favour, given also the French football knowledge of Sage or was he part of the acquisition conversation?
My two exits would be Sage and Hobbs without delay.

 

[Eaglehamster]

I'm more or less resigned to us being relegated. I just can't see anyone getting a good enough team out of the players we presently have.

My great fear is this continues in the Championship. If it can happen to Leicester it can just as easily happen to us.

 

[JHB]

I disagree that the squad is light and threadbare and as said before we have a lot more depth than last season. It’s up to the manager and coaches to implement a structure that makes us hard to beat first and foremost plus have the capabilities to counter. Getting the best out of players and importantly motivating them. In the background we have made some poor decisions one of which seems to be Guessand, why get him back and with it a loan fee of a few million I guess for him to be out of favour, given also the French football knowledge of Sage or was he part of the acquisition conversation?
My two exits would be Sage and Hobbs without delay.

This is it in a nutshell.

Let’s look at the squad and where it should be strong. Well we have a lot of wide players and two big centre forwards (when not getting themselves suspended). That might suggest you play with width and get crosses into the box. We have a couple of normally ok centre halves but some raw and inconsistent ones as well. That might suggest you play two in the middle at the back and give them cover in midfield. We have a normally excellent passer of the ball in midfield but one who is not great physically or as a ball winner. That suggests you play him with one or two ball winners so he has space to play.

In short it is screaming for 4 at the back, 4 or 5 in midfield with wingers played as wingers.

343 is pretty much the worst system you could have for this group of players especially the Sage version of it which seems almost designed on purpose to expose the back three, leave Wharton isolated in midfield and provide no service to the striker.

 

[dynamicdick]

This is it in a nutshell.

Let’s look at the squad and where it should be strong. Well we have a lot of wide players and two big centre forwards (when not getting themselves suspended). That might suggest you play with width and get crosses into the box. We have a couple of normally ok centre halves but some raw and inconsistent ones as well. That might suggest you play two in the middle at the back and give them cover in midfield. We have a normally excellent passer of the ball in midfield but one who is not great physically or as a ball winner. That suggests you play him with one or two ball winners so he has space to play.

In short it is screaming for 4 at the back, 4 or 5 in midfield with wingers played as wingers.

343 is pretty much the worst system you could have for this group of players especially the Sage version of it which seems almost designed on purpose to expose the back three, leave Wharton isolated in midfield and provide no service to the striker.

Disasi played at West Ham in a back 4 with him on the left of the central two as he is predominantly left footed. This means they had balance which, admittedly didn’t stop them going down but my point is and as you say he for one is not suited to a back three so make best use of the strengths of players at your disposal.

 

[Username]

He wont resign .

As you say Parish goes quiet when things are not going too well and he goes very quiet when he know its on him as to the reasons why .

What exactly do you think Parish should he saying right now in public instead of ‘going quiet?’

He can’t win that battle. Stay out of it and he’s gone quiet. Back Sage and people will moan he’s clueless. Be more critical of the team and he’s undermining the manager.

 

[Willo]

Disasi played at West Ham in a back 4 with him on the left of the central two as he is predominantly left footed. This means they had balance which, admittedly didn’t stop them going down but my point is and as you say he for one is not suited to a back three so make best use of the strengths of players at your disposal.

Axel Disasi is right-footed.
He can be deployed at right-back if necessary and he had games in this position under Unai Emery at A.Villa in season 2024-25.