Reform

So Farage is finally talking the talk. But will he actually stick on his Oxfords and actually walk the walk? Not convinced. But there can be no backing down now on these pledges. That is a nailed on fact. And if he does U-turn on them then it can only be because he has been a fraud all along.

The mood music all seems to be about a political class (and I include Farage in that now) literally shitting themselves because their collective attempts at virtue signalling and trying to gas-light people with all the usual 'wascist' BS are not only failing miserably, but actually being counter-productive. Driving more people rightwards on a daily basis.
 
DANGERCLOSE said:
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More pie in the sky for the gullible. Less unfunded this time as unrealistic.

Illegal arrival is already an offence and some are indeed arrested and jailed, predominantly those who are already known to us. The problem is they are entitled to legal advice and to make a claim for asylum. As are they all.

Making agreements is easy to say, but demands willingness from all parties. Which is as unlikely as Parish agreeing to buy Marinakis half a cow for his dinner on Sunday.

Booking planes is easy. Getting illegals into the seats and destinations to accept them is much harder.

Putting asylum seekers into redundant military bases sounds simple but if it was practical it would have been done years ago. For our citizens needing housing. Where are these bases? What state of repair are they in? Who will supervise?

Sending people to Ascension Island would be a very expensive way to handle this problem. It’s a very long way and less than 1000 people live there at present so we would need to send many more. Better to one of the Scottish Islands, The Isle of Dogs or Hayling Island!
 
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Wisbech Eagle said:
More pie in the sky for the gullible. Less unfunded this time as unrealistic.

Illegal arrival is already an offence and some are indeed arrested and jailed, predominantly those who are already known to us. The problem is they are entitled to legal advice and to make a claim for asylum. As are they all.

Making agreements is easy to say, but demands willingness from all parties. Which is as unlikely as Parish agreeing to buy Marikanis half a cow for his dinner on Sunday.

Booking planes is easy. Getting illegals into the seats and destinations to accept them is much harder.

Putting asylum seekers into redundant military bases sounds simple but if it was practical it would have been done years ago. For our citizens needing housing. Where are these bases? What state of repair are they in? Who will supervise?

Sending people to Ascension Island would be a very expensive way to handle this problem. It’s a very long way and less than 1000 people live there at present so we would need to send many more. Better to one of the Scottish Islands, The Isle of Dogs or Hayling Island!
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Your close or avenue will do.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
This would do.

www.thesun.co.uk

Inside once-bustling UK holiday park left frozen in time after closing suddenly

A ONCE-bustling Pontins park has become an eerie ghost town after closing down two years ago. The site has stood abandoned and unused ever since, becoming a desolate holiday park that’s like …
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Not just this one! There are others, but there must be good reasons they aren’t used which I guess is staffing and security. The holiday camp employees are long gone and there would need to be new contracts. The obvious solution would be for the asylum seekers to do the cleaning and catering themselves as a condition of them being accommodated, under the supervision of security and training staff. Much like an open prison must be. Which begs the question of why, when we have been struggling to find prison places, they aren’t already in use. So there’s probably other reasons too. Maybe they are already sold and going through planning?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Not just this one! There are others, but there must be good reasons they aren’t used which I guess is staffing and security. The holiday camp employees are long gone and there would need to be new contracts. The obvious solution would be for the asylum seekers to do the cleaning and catering themselves as a condition of them being accommodated, under the supervision of security and training staff. Much like an open prison must be. Which begs the question of why, when we have been struggling to find prison places, they aren’t already in use. So there’s probably other reasons too. Maybe they are already sold and going through planning?
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Is security that much of a concern? In Scotland the government is bringing back fee bus travel for asylum seekers next year so they wouldn't appear to be that worried. Unless you mean internal security since some of those involved are not natural allies.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
More pie in the sky for the gullible. Less unfunded this time as unrealistic.

Illegal arrival is already an offence and some are indeed arrested and jailed, predominantly those who are already known to us. The problem is they are entitled to legal advice and to make a claim for asylum. As are they all.

Making agreements is easy to say, but demands willingness from all parties. Which is as unlikely as Parish agreeing to buy Marinakis half a cow for his dinner on Sunday.

Booking planes is easy. Getting illegals into the seats and destinations to accept them is much harder.

Putting asylum seekers into redundant military bases sounds simple but if it was practical it would have been done years ago. For our citizens needing housing. Where are these bases? What state of repair are they in? Who will supervise?

Sending people to Ascension Island would be a very expensive way to handle this problem. It’s a very long way and less than 1000 people live there at present so we would need to send many more. Better to one of the Scottish Islands, The Isle of Dogs or Hayling Island!
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1958983329761345745
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Is security that much of a concern? In Scotland the government is bringing back fee bus travel for asylum seekers next year so they wouldn't appear to be that worried. Unless you mean internal security since some of those involved are not natural allies.
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Internal and external. Any site like that needs some security and something like this would have potential threats to peace inside but also threats to it from outside. So it would probably need to be fenced, gated and access controlled.
 
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